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         Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi        | |
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                       >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                   FREEWARE FAVORITES: Hierarchic 1.6.3
                   HARDWORKING HARDWARE: Focus Drive 520
              AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
            "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"

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 The Lamp!            An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 1, No. 11
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Internet Email........................................thelamp@delphi.com
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                             TABLE OF CONTENTS
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                             November 15, 1998


OPENING PITCH
     Too Little Maybe, Too Late Never ------------------------------- [OPN]

A FUNNY THING HAPPENED                                                [FOR]
     The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
     Miscellanea                                                      [MSC]
     Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
     Public Postings                                                  [PUB]
     Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]

A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
     Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]

HARDWORKING HARDWARE
     Focus Drive 520 by Alltech Electronics ------------------------- [HAR]

FREEWARE FAVORITES
     Hierarchic 1.6.3 ----------------------------------------------- [FRE]

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

                                [*] [*] [*]

READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will find
something like:

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].


         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
         :                                                       :
         :        Marriage is the main cause of divorce.         :
         :                                                       :
         ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 ::::::::


[EOA]
[OPN]------------------------------
                     OPENING PITCH |
-----------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

                     TOO LITTLE MAYBE, TOO LATE NEVER
                     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     A week or so ago, a good friend of mine got married.  This didn't
strike me as unusual, although to a lot of other people it was--you see, he
was forty, and this was the first time he married.  I silently wondered if
they'd have preferred him being divorced twice instead.  In any case,
myself and my lady friend missed the ceremony--we didn't know where the
church was, and by the time we found it, it was 4:20 p.m.  The wedding had
started twenty minutes earlier, and ended, apparently, twenty seconds
earlier.  We looked at each other, shrugged our shoulders as one, and
headed on over to get some coffee at one of my favorite taverns before we
got to the reception and had a bunch of fun in honor of Jeff's and Jo's
marriage.  It was a good end to a day that was marred only by one tardiness
that didn't stop us from celebrating our friends' new commitment, and may
that commitment, and the love behind it, last forever.

     Forever, it seems, means that it's never too late--never too late to
start again or continue on, never too late to try something new or come
back to something forgotten.  Forever means it's never too late to reach
for new heights or sit back and think what a great ride it's been--and how
great it'll be.

     Forever means that you'll always have one more chance.  And that
there's no reason to ever give up.

     And on a clear day, you can still see it.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     Vacation All I Ever Wanted Department: This issue of _The Lamp!_ will
probably be uploaded to Delphi from an unusual location--the California
Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada.  Yes, I'm on vacation again, my third mainland
trip of the year (two too many for someone who only visited the mainland
twice in something like 28 years), this time at Comdex by accident and at
_another_ wedding of an old friend's by purpose.  While up there I also
plan to run over and hang out a bit with Alltech Electronics' own Tony
Diaz, the Master of the Apple II Dremel.

     I leave for Vegas in less than 24 hours.  Take care.


Ryan
thelamp@delphi.com

ASCII ART BEGINS
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   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |
   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |
   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|
   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _
   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|
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ASCII ART ENDS


[EOA]
[OPN]------------------------------
     A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
-----------------------------------
Checking out A2 on Delphi
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

       * The Heat Is On

              * Miscellanea

                     * Rumor Mill

                            * Public Postings

                                        * Best Of The Best

                              THE HEAT IS ON
                              """"""""""""""

     [*] Welcome To A2/Announcements ....... A2U Back In Session
     [*] Telecommunications          ....... Cereal Ports?
     [*] Entertainment Software      ....... GShisen Rules The Desktop
     [*] Vendors & Tech Support      ....... Spectrum 2.2 Unleashed
     [*] Productivity Software       ....... The Mysterious Tool 030
     [*] General Chatter             ....... Choosing An A2 ISP

                                MISCELLANEA
                                """""""""""

HOW DO YOU SEND DELPHI MAIL TO MORE THAN ONE ADDRESS?   Just list them all
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   in the 'To:' line
of your email, separated by commas...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 13 Oct 1998 - 281 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16845, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   In the "To:" row, separate each address with a "comma" (,) and no
"""""   space. Alternately, you could do the same in the "CC:" row.


Jeff Carr
 Mon, 12 Oct 98 @ 20:32:18

Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5
                       (LUMITECH, 16850, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   From the mail command prompt, type: SEND /CC
"""""   Then just follow the prompts...

 - Don (IronTooth)

Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts...

                         They're OLRight!
                       (DZAHNISER, 16868, GO COM A2)

<<<<<   I am not sure how OlRight handles this, but COG under Spectrum
"""""   supports 'CC' of email messages. Mack was probably referring to
that...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 14 Oct 1998 - 280 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16880, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   OLRight! prompts you for a CC address, and if you provide one (or
"""""   several separated by commas), uses the SEND /CC command.
Otherwise, it uses just SEND.

 - Don (IronTooth)

Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts...

                         They're OLRight!
                       (DZAHNISER, 16883, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   There is also a SET command that will cause Delphi to always prompt
"""""   you for a CC list. I don't remember it right now, but HELP SET
should find it.

 ------------------------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Oct 15, 1998 3:16:57 am
 [Delivered with Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5]
 --
 Try to relax and enjoy the crisis.
                        (TONYW1, 16921, GO COM A2)


MOUNTING THE GOLDEN ORCHARD ON A MAC   As I suggested in the chat
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   yesterday, it is basically
impossible to pinpoint the problem without sitting in front of the corpus
delicti.

I think the best thing you can do is

- try to mount the CD-ROM with a different startup disk. You said you have
an optical drive or something like that. Boot your Mac from a optical disk
with a fresh, FWB CD-ROM Toolkit enhanced system and give it a try.

- check your hard disk for soft errors. Disk First Aid is your friend here.
If you do not check for errors regularly, reinstall the system after 4
months or so. Today's software, notably internet software, is so lousy it
sends your hard disk to Heaven sooner or later. By reinstalling your system
sporadically, you're on the safe side. Microsoft and Netscape take care
your hard disk will not last forever.

System freezers like the one you described are often caused by corrupted
files (or disk catalogs).

- if the problems develop, be sure to disable all third-party extensions
except for the HDT CD-ROM driver.

Again, I wouldn't expect a simple answer like "delete file xy". There's a
flaw somewhere buried in your system - reinstalling the system takes 2
hours maximum, trying to locate the problem may take an eternity.

- henrik
                        (GUDATH, 16690, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   You also of course have to tell CD-ROM Toolkit that you want to
"""""   mount ProDOS volumes. The default settings do not do mount them.
Just go to the control panel, double click the drive entry, and configure
the 'Mounting' option.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 8 Oct 1998 - 286 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16711, GO COM A2)


BERNIE DOES INTEL, BUT NOT WINDOWS   You need to define if you're looking
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   for a //e or IIgs emulator.

There are some reasonable IIe emulators that will run on either machine.
There is at least one totally unreasonable IIgs emulator that will run on
either machine as well.

If you're going to insist on running an Intel based machine and want to
emulate a IIgs, set up _BeOS for Intel_ on it and run _Sweet 16_ (_the BeOS
IIgs emulator formerly known as Open Bernie_).

-
 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.  --  rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
                       (RSUENAGA, 17192, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Hmmm. A very interesting piece of news. :-)
"""""
Could you advise us on how/where to obtain the PC version of BeOS for
Intel, as well as Sweet 16. I assume BeOS for Intel is a commercial
product, but I'm totally uncertain of that.

I saw Sheppy demo BeOS on the Mac last summer at Kfest, and was quite
impressed with it, as well as its running of Bernie.

Max
                       (JUICEDGS, 17201, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   You can buy BeOS for Intel online at http://www.bedepot.com, at an
"""""   introductory price of $69.95. Release 3.2 has been available for
some time.

BeOS Release 4 is due in December, and will probably be sold at the regular
price of $99.95 (I'm not sure, but I believe the introductory price ends
when R4 ships). People that have BeOS Release 3 can upgrade to R4 for
$29.95 (that's a preliminary figure -- we haven't decided the final price
yet, but that's probably what it'll be).

So actually it would cost the same amount to buy R3, then upgrade to R4.

Sweet16 (Bernie for BeOS) isn't out yet, but I expect it will be before the
end of the year. I'm sure Henrik will say something eventually. :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Technical Writer
Be, Inc.
(This message is a secret communication. I disavow all knowledge of its
contents.)
                        (SHEPPY, 17212, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Thanks for that info, Sheppy.
"""""
I think it would pretty darn cool to be able to run my GS on my 233 MHz
Pentium II, hence my interest in the BeOS.

Is it safe to assume that I would be able to toggle seamlessly between the
BeOS and Windows 95 once I had BeOs installed, similar to the way you were
able to toggle back and forth between BeOS and MacOS on the Mac?

I would not want to take Windows 95 off my PC and replace it with BeOS. I'd
just like to have it as an option.

> Sweet16 (Bernie for BeOS) isn't out yet, but I expect it will be before
> the end of the year. I'm sure Henrik will say something eventually. :)

It's just amazing what those boys can accomplish with the help of that cute
canine creature.  Woof!

Max
                       (JUICEDGS, 17213, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Well... you can choose whether to boot into Windows or BeOS, but
"""""   there's no Windows environment that runs under BeOS (it's possible
for someone to create one, but it doesn't exist at this time). There is
such a product for the Power Mac version of BeOS, which lets you run Mac
software under BeOS.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                        (SHEPPY, 17216, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   BeOS is faster than Windows NT, has a development cycle far shorter
"""""   than the three-year cycle of Windows NT (BeOS R3 was released in
April; R4 is shipping in December, and is up to 20% faster).

There aren't a lot of apps yet (although there are some and more are
coming), but the ones that do exist perform better than comparable apps on
either Mac OS or Windows 98 or NT. If you're curious about BeOS, you can
get a demo CD for just $3.99; visit http://www.be.com for information.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                        (SHEPPY, 17217, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Hmm, I think the real question is why you would want to run
"""""   Windows.

Re: Sweet16/Intel (aka BetelBernie :)

As for Sweet 16/Intel, I don't have much to say except that Ryan is once
again ahead of its time. :-) Sweet16/Intel/Be does exist, but it is still
in heavy debug state and is not being worked on cause Bernie 2.0 has top
priority. I have really no idea when it will become available. Bernie 2.0
was quite an undertaking, and we're all ready for a longer vacation.

woof,

henrik
                        (GUDATH, 17223, GO COM A2)


EVERYONE LOVES GSHISEN   I would just like to say that GShisen is the most
""""""""""""""""""""""   subversive and dastardly attack on the
productivity of IIGS users that I have encountered to date.

A tip: I have solved the "disgruntled partner" problem by getting my
partner hooked as well - although I must admit that it is not a pretty
sight when a grown man starts begging and grovelling for a GShisen "fix".

Giselle
                      (GSCHNAUBELT, 16754, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   GShisen rules. It's a much better game than Wolf 3D.
"""""

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                        (SHEPPY, 16509, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   All right, I confess.  This global economic problem is actually due
"""""   to millions of otherwise productive people playing GShisen (anyone
that's not using a GS couldn't be productive).

Kelvin "GShisen" Sherlock
                          (KWS, 16520, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I must agree. I downloaded GShisen the other day and installed it
"""""   yesterday and it is an incredible game.

I've logged too many hours to count playing Shanghai and Shanghai II on my
IIgs and now I'm going to spend yet more time playing GShisen over and over
again.

Thanks Kelvin! (Note this can be said either enthusiastically or
sarcastically depending on whether I have deadlines to make or not. :)

Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
                       (JBLAKENEY, 16589, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Too late for me...I'm already hooked...and so is my daughter!
"""""
BTW, I'm curious. What does the name mean? Obviously, I know the GS part,
but the "hisen" part has me baffled.

Thanks for a super game!


Jeff Carr
 Sun, 4 Oct 98 @ 16:41:25

Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5

 My cat is radioactive. She has 18 half-lives.
                       (LUMITECH, 16605, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   FYI, GS means the obvious.  "Shisen" is a reference to      :
"""""   "Shisen-Sho." I don't know what that means, but doing a net search
will yield a few pages concerning Japanese Gardens...

There is a game called Shisen-Sho upon which GShisen is based.  I've heard
of 2 versions for X-Windows, which is where the inspiration comes from.

AFAIK, the only personal computer with this sort of game on it is the IIgs.
                          (KWS, 16617, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I made the mistake of trying GShisen tonight. I figured I had a few
"""""   hours to kill, so why not check out the new game? Big mistake. It's
now 2:30 in the morning and I have to be up for work in a few hours. Darn
this game. And I thought Snood was addictive!

Very nice job, Kelvin! Would you mind if I upload it to Genie?

 ------------------------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Mon Oct 05, 1998 2:45:59 am
 [Delivered with Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5]
 --
 Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
                        (TONYW1, 16607, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   GShisen may only be distributed via Delphi, Genie, and Shareware
"""""   Solutions II.  If GShisen were to contain a bug, I believe that the
users of the above services would report it properly.  I don't need to see
5 threads in csa2 calling me a bad programmer because system 6.0.1 contains
bugs in it.
                          (KWS, 16691, GO COM A2)


ALTERNATIVES TO THE DOG: OTHER APPLE II EMULATORS   On the Mac, _IIe_ and
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   _Catakig_ are pretty
reasonable IIe emulators, and _Deja II_ works really well if you just want
to run Appleworks 5.1.

The best emulator on the Windows side of things is, I think, _AppleWin_ or
_Applepc_.  These are both IIe emulators.

_XGS_, which works on multiple platforms, is a IIgs emulator, but is about,
oh, four years behind Bernie in the development cycle.

The only reasonable alternative for full IIgs emulation on an Intel or
clone machine will be _Sweet 16_ for BeOS for Intel.

 -
 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1982"
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
                       (RSUENAGA, 17242, GO COM A2)


SPECTRUM AND APPLEWORKS 5.1 FILE COMPATIBILITY   Does this count as a bug
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   in Spectrum? It is an
inconvenience, anyway. I recently upgraded my copy of AppleWorks to 5.1,
and found that it let me do neat things like create highlighted text. If I
open documents in the Spectrum Editor, though, the upper case highlighted
letters appear as mousetext, and the lowercase ones as accented (high
ASCII) characters. Having them show up as white text on a black background
would be neat, but just having them show up readably would be an
improvement :-)
                        (GARETH, 16530, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   It is not a bug in Spectrum, it just AppleWorks 5.0 sneaking up
"""""   behind it unannounced... Spectrum only supports AppleWorks 3.0 text
formatting, as AppleWorks 5.0 had not been released when Spectrum was
written!

But I could see if it is possible to do something about it for 2.2, but I
would need to have the specs for the new features in AWKS 5.0 text files. I
am not sure if they have been published anywhere. If anyone has a copy,
please send it to me...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 2 Oct 1998 - 292 days till KFest
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5!
 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 and a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16532, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   The Inverse / MouseText support in AW 5 turns out to be almost an
"""""   anti-climax in terms of implementation. If my memory of some other
comments I've heard in the past serves me, AW3 even has support for it -
you just have to enter the data with a hex file editor!

I don't have the exact details with me, but it is something trivial like
high-bit ASCII (which should come as no surprise given the reported
symptoms). I think the rest of the basic file layout is similar enough that
your AW 3 code will work just fine for most things.

Do you have AW5? The disk comes with some sample files containing MouseText
and Inverse text. I used the data in those files to update an AWP-reader
program of my own to handle inverse and mouse text characters. Not that
hard, even without formal docs (other than the AW 3 (and 4?) docs that are
readily available on the net).

In the (highly unlikely! ;-) event that you need help with this, email me
and I'll try to dig up some hard facts.

--
Peter Watson
-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
-- Impossible! ;-)
                      (PETERWATSON, 16652, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Peter, thanks for the offer, but...
"""""
You are right, it was an anti-climax. The hibit characters turn on with the
standard key-press commands that are listed in the hardware manual. It did
not take long to work out the mapping of Inverse and MouseText in an AW 5.0
file, so I can now filter the hibit characters to make more sense in the
Spectrum 2.2 display.

It will need a Babelfish translator written in due course (volunteers
anybody?) to be able to fully support everything in an AW 5.0 file, but for
the meantime, the Spectrum 2.2 editor will be able to handle the files
without turning them into garbage!

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 7 Oct 1998 - 287 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16687, GO COM A2)


WHERE TO GO FOR INTERFACING APPLE II WITH THE REAL WORLD?   I agree with
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   John--the place
to start is Vernier. Check out www.vernier.com.

The game paddle port can easily handle the requirements of a weather
station. I'm not aware of any all-in-one kits for weather stations, but
Vernier sells interface kits for humidity and temperature measurements. If
you can find or make the mechanical parts, measuring wind direction and
speed should be relatively easy. Rainfall should be fairly easy,
too--Vernier has some kits that could do it by weight, or you could create
an optical or electronic device fairly easily. While this would be a fairly
hefty project, it shouldn't be too expensive--and when you consider that a
decent weather station for the Mac or Windows platform runs about $2000,
putting one together for your Apple II sounds pretty attractive.

I've built a lot of Vernier kits and used their project books. I really
can't recommend them highly enough.

Mike Westerfield
                       (BYTEWORKS, 16619, GO COM A2)


WILL AN AE //C MEMORY CARD WORK IN THE //C+?   Depends.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
The early //c's and the late //c's took different memory cards.

If it's a late //c memory card (Slinky type, compatible with the one Apple
produced), then yes, it will work.  If it's an early Z-RAM type, nope.

 -
 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1982"
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
                       (RSUENAGA, 16824, GO COM A2)


FINE TUNING SPECTRUM   I don't know whether this is a known issue or not,
""""""""""""""""""""   but I was just decoding a bunch of files with v1.5
of the BinHQX XCMD and I noticed that, while the file length for decoded
files is set correctly (which most other decoders do not do), the
modification date and time are that at which the decoded file is written,
not the original file's settings. Other than that, your claim that it is
the definitive decoder is right on!

-- Michael
                          (SAR, 16900, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   What method of encoding did the source files have? Not all methods
"""""   hold the dates so they can be extracted. Base 64 and UUencode do
not hold the dates for instance.

I will make a check on BinSCII and BinHex 4.0.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 15 Oct 1998 - 279 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16918, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I have now fixed this. It was only the BinSCII extraction that was
"""""   affected, and even then only the modification date as it turned
out.

Binhex 4.0, UUencode and Base 64 do not hold the dates in the encoded text,
so they will always show the extraction time and date for the create and
modification dates of the final file.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 15 Oct 1998 - 279 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16940, GO COM A2)


OPENING LARGE FILES   The first thing to do is dump _Teach_ and use a
"""""""""""""""""""   better replacement, such as _WordWorks Pro_, _EgoEd
2.0_, or _Shadowwrite_/_Hermes_ (I prefer the latter, and wish Andre would
port it to the Mac).  While these won't allow you to view a text file of
-any- length (I don't know of anything on any platform that will allow you
to view a text file of any length because sooner or later, you run out of
memory), they will allow you to view far larger text files than _Teach_
would ever allow you to.

 -
 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1982"
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
                       (RSUENAGA, 16877, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I second the motion!
"""""
While I can't think of an example right at the moment, there are (were?)
programs around that *can* handle any size text file simply because they
only provide a 'window' into the file, rather than reading the entire file
into memory. Performance isn't as good, obviously, but the problem is
circumvented.

--
Peter Watson
-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
-- Impossible! ;-)
                      (PETERWATSON, 16881, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   If you don't mind losing the style information, Zoetrope will open
"""""   and view Text and Teach files of any length, as you view the file
as 32K segments or 'pages'. It was also designed to run in a total of about
64K of memory. But it is a 'view' only application, not a word processor.

It should be in the libraries somewhere, but if not, I can look it out and
get it uploaded.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 15 Oct 1998 - 279 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16919, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   File-A-Trix will also handle any size text file (or any other file,
"""""   for that matter.) It's just a viewer though, not an editor.

 ------------------------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Oct 15, 1998 3:42:05 am
 [Delivered with Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5]
 --
 I wish you humans would leave me alone.
                        (TONYW1, 16923, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   WordPerfect IIgs uses virtual memory (a file on disk) for the files
"""""   that it opens, so it can open a file as large as the free space on
your disk. If you have a fairly large HFS volume to play with, you can open
a file that is much larger than your computer's RAM.
                        (GARETH, 16933, GO COM A2)


GARY ON MODEL T'S AND APPLE II'S   I believe that was me. I use that Model
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   T line a lot. :)

You can make an Apple II run like a darned fine Model T, and the Model T
can do an awful lot of things a "modern" automobile is simply not capable
of. After the "end of the world" (pick your scenario, atomic bombs, comets,
or just the Y2K bug) Apple IIs and Model T's are gonna be a LOT more useful
than SUVs and Pentium IIs.

Gary R. Utter
                         (UTTER, 17183, GO COM A2)


TCP/IP IN A NUTSHELL BY WAY OF EUROPE   This is how Marinetti talks to the
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Internet...

The Internet uses TCP/IP, which describes a method of sending packets of
information around the Internet. Each packet has address labels for where
it has to go, and sender labels of where it has come from.

The receiver then checks that all the right packets have arrived, and
requests those that are missing. Much like a windowed Kermit file transfer.

Marinetti talks TCP/IP, as does a Macintosh or a PC with Internet access.
So TCP/IP is used as the link between applications and the Internet.

But you need a connection into the Internet before you can use TCP/IP.

If you are on a LAN (Local Area Network), in a large business or education
establishment, you may well have routers that link your LAN (probably
Ethernet) directly into the Internet.

In those cases, all you will need is TCP/IP (Marinetti) with a direct
connection.

But if you are not on a LAN, the only way for you to get onto the Internet
is to let someone else make this link for you. They then become what is
called an ISP, or Internet Service Provider.

You must connect to the ISP using a modem.

But the ISP uses a protocol all of its own to link the TCP/IP at your
computer into the TCP/IP on the Internet.

The most common one is PPP (Point to Point Protocol). A less common one,
but a simpler one, is SLIP (Serial Link Internet Protocol).

Because SLIP is simpler, Richard was able to get it working first for
Marinetti 1.0. But because it is less common, he also now supports PPP in
Marinetti 2.0. You will want to use PPP wherever possible.

Most ISPs will expect you to sign in with a username and password so they
can verify that you have an account with them. This is usually done before
you invoke PPP or SLIP. You need to use a scripted method of connection
with Marinetti to do this. SLIP is always handled this way, and you would
use the scripted PPP option for a PPP connection.

More commonly now, ISPs will also support PAP authentification protocol
with PPP. This is much easier to set up, as all you need to enter in
Marinetti is your user name and password. It is also quicker to verify your
account.

Some newer ISPs require a more secure method of authentification called
CHAP. This is currently not supported in Marinetti 2.0, so you will not be
able to use those ISPs with Marinetti 2.0.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 9 Oct 1998 - 285 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/

                        (EWANNOP, 16738, GO COM A2)


ZIP GSX AND THE SELF TEST   The ZipGS will more often than not cause
"""""""""""""""""""""""""   various self test failures, even if it did not
in the past, disabling it does not rule it out. There is a setting in the
manual that sets it to pass the self test. It doesn't always work.

The ZipGS will also effect the diagnostics program in much the same way.

For best results, remove the Zip and test the computer without it.

..however, before I would do that, is the IIgs actually not working
properly?

Is it doing something *bad*, consistently crashy, etc? If you notice
nothing wrong other than a self test failure in that range, it's probably
the ZipGS doing it. Unless the computer is doing something wrong, leave it
alone.

Otherwise, to rule out the possibility, test it with out the ZipGS.

Tony
                        (T_DIAZ, 17116, GO COM A2)


USING THE //E WITH 3.5 DRIVES   The //e will need a card for 3.5 drives.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   The older card will work with the Apple
Unidisk Drive, which had most of the smarts on the drive. The later card
will work with either the Unidisk or the newer "dumb" Apple 3.5 drive. The
newer card will also support Apple Superdrives at 1.44M. Last I knew,
Shreve Systems still had the newer cards, but had a confusing description
for them.
  --
 Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri  16 Oct 98  9:40:05 pm
 cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.1 & Crock O' Gold v2.5
 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 278 days till KFest
                        (CKNOBLO, 16999, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I was just about to say, "Here is all the information you need.. "
"""""   but I notice that I did not specifically cover //e & ][+
completely, but:

http://www.apple2.org/A2WebRef/A2Reference09.html

.which is a page from the Apple ][ Online Reference @ www.apple2.org

Tony
                        (T_DIAZ, 17014, GO COM A2)


NIFTYSPELL PRAISES   Years ago, I bought a little Desk Accessory called
""""""""""""""""""   Balloon from GS+, then promptly forgot about it.
Except when I needed it, of course, which was on a fairly regular basis. Or
when I was in Spectrum, which has an XCMD supporting it. Or whenever I send
a file to someone. Nifty Spell comes under the same category: it is
something that fits into your system so well that you immediately take it
for granted and act as though you have always had it. I hope that Chris and
Joe take this as the ultimate compliment that it is meant to be. Excellent
work!
                        (GARETH, 16748, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I find the convenience of NiftySpell just incredible. I'm typing a
"""""   message in pine or Lynx and suddenly realize that I don't know how
to spell a word (I'm a horrible speller in the first place). All I have to
do is close my display, open NiftySpell, perform the check word function,
and type in how I think the word is spelled. I check it, see that it is
spelled wrong, ask for suggestions, choose the right one, and copy the
word. Close NiftySpell and open my display and press OA-V and the correctly
spelled word is typed in for me. I have not seen this capability and ease
be available on any other OS platform from within a wide variety of
software including comm programs. It is really incredible to see what the
Apple IIgs is doing these days.

Geoff
                       (SISGEOFF, 16752, GO COM A2)



                                RUMOR MILL
                                """"""""""

SHEPPY HACKS AT GSBUG   I've just released a new program (with the longest
"""""""""""""""""""""   title of anything I've done :):

GSBug 1.6 Patch for Bernie-Happiness (version 1.0) is now available for
download from my FTP site:

ftp://ftp.sheppyware.net/pub/apple_iigs/PatchGSBug.shk

This program patches GSBug 1.6 (and only this version) to change the
keystrokes to enter GSBug from Ctrl-Apple-Option-ESC to
Ctrl-Apple-Shift-ESC.

The standard key combination doesn't work in Bernie ][ the Rescue because
Ctrl-Apple-ESC is the force-quit option in Mac OS. The changed key
combination gets around this problem.

This application is a hack. It's not pretty, but it works. :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                        (SHEPPY, 17060, GO COM A2)


WHERE THE HECK IS TOOL030?   From memory, tool 030 (Resource Manager) is
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   actually in the ROM of a ROM 03, and is loaded
by TS1 on a ROM 01, so there's no specific Tool030 file.

Regards,
 Richard
                       (RICHARD_B, 16771, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   The Analyst (Softdisk G-S #48) shows tool 30 loaded, but does not
"""""   show where it came from. Of course, I have a Rom 3. The person who
got a message that it wasn't loaded must have had a Rom 2. But how his GS
could run without it, I don't know. :)

It must actually be a part of TS2, since it isn't in a file of it's own,
but then why is TS3 larger than TS2?
  --
 Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat  10 Oct 98  9:51:50 pm
 cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.1 & Crock O' Gold v2.5
 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 284 days till KFest
                        (CKNOBLO, 16772, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Hopefully, someone will let me know if I'm wrong, but there is no
"""""   Tool30 in the 'Tools' folder. From what I gathered from the
=original= post is that the so-called 'Tool30' is really the "Resource.Mgr"
which resides in the 'Setup' folder.


Jeff Carr
 Sat, 10 Oct 98 @ 11:08:32

Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
Spectrum v2.1 and Crock O' Gold v2.5

 Windows is a pane.
                       (LUMITECH, 16774, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Jeff: you're correct. Tool #30, the Resource Manager, is loaded
"""""   from the file Resource.Mgr in the System.Setup folder, not from a
tool file.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                        (SHEPPY, 16779, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   OK folks, let's nail this tool 030 thread on the head.
"""""
 1. There is no such thing as a file called "Tool030" in your tools folder.

 2. If you get a message asking for "Tool 30", then you are running
    System 6.

 3. Marinetti requires System 6.0.1 (not 6.0), and SHOULD indicate this if
    you try to run it under 6.0.

The bottom line is, as long as you are running System 6.0.1, don't worry
about it!

Regards,
 Richard
                       (RICHARD_B, 16780, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Just to put all of you out of your misery, and to save you
"""""   searching in vain for something that does not exist in the form you
are looking for it, I shall quote from Toolbox Ref Vol 3:

'Unlike most other tool sets, the Resource manager need to be started up by
your program. At startup time, the system automatically loads and
initializes the Resource Manager from the RESOURCE.MGR file in the
SYSTEM.SETUP directory of the boot disk. The Resource Manager then opens
the system resources file, SYS.RESOURCES in the SYSTEM.SETUP directory, if
it is present.

To use the Resource Manager, your program must log in, using the
ResourceStartUp tool call. This call informs the Resource Manager that your
program is going to be using its services. As an alternative, your program
may issue the Tool Locator StartUpTools call.'

That is the essence of the how Tool030 is started, so you should all be
looking for two files in the SYSTEM.SETUP directory, RESOURCE.MGR and
SYS.RESOURCES. If those are both present, then you have Tool030, if not,
then copy those from your Install disk set. Without them, System 6.0.1
would hardly even get going...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sun 11 Oct 1998 - 283 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16782, GO COM A2)


HELPING YOUR DEVELOPERS HELP YOU   Can I make a general point here. Anyone
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   who is not yet running System 6.0.1
should upgrade as soon as possible. Apart from being required by Marinetti
2.0, it will also be required by Spectrum 2.2 when it is released.

I think the developer community could rest easier in their beds if they
knew that everyone was using it! :)

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sun 11 Oct 1998 - 283 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                        (EWANNOP, 16784, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   I agree wholeheartedly.  And those of you who don't have enough
"""""   memory to run 6.0.1, head over to Alltech Electronics and get a
Sirius II RAM card.  The 8 meg version costs less than I paid for a 4 meg
RAM card a few years ago.

And for you 8 bit Apple II freaks out there, please run the latest ProDOS
as well. :)

 -
 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1982"
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
                       (RSUENAGA, 16786, GO COM A2)



                              PUBLIC POSTINGS
                              """""""""""""""

A MESSAGE FROM THE DEAN   HyperCard IIgs Course
"""""""""""""""""""""""
Lesson 0
Preview

Copyright (c) 1998 by Gareth Jones

PURPOSE OF THE COURSE

     This course in HyperCard IIgs ("HCGS," for short) takes a student who
knows the basics (what a stack is, what a button is, what a text field is)
through designing and making a fairly advanced project. The project that
I've settled on is an appointment calendar, a type of program sometimes
called a "Personal Information Manager" or "PIM" in the Mac and Windows
worlds.

     Each step in making this stack will be discussed in a written lesson.
You will learn why the stack is being designed the way it is, and
alternatives to each choice. The final stage of the course is to alter the
stack to meet your own needs better. Your choices will be made on your own
needs, but I'll help out with any programming difficulties that you run
into in this stage.

BEFORE YOU START

     There are three prerequisites to following this course.

1. You must have a system that can run HCGS.

     HCGS needs a IIgs system with:

     a. 2 MB or more of RAM
     b. A 3.5" disk drive
     c. A hard drive

     If you don't have these three requirements, then you may want to get
them. Not only HCGS, but almost all major IIgs programs need them. Think of
this course as a spur to do something that you should do for other reasons.

2. You must have HCGS

     If you can run HCGS, then you may need to obtain a copy. It is no
longer sold by Apple, but all six 3.5" disks can be downloaded for free
from Apple or from Delphi's file library. The web address to get it from
Apple is:

     http://swupdates.info.apple.com/cgi.bin/lister.pl?Apple.Supp
     ort.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Apple_II/HyperCard_IIGS_1 .1

     [Dean's NOTE:  The above URL did not work for me but the
      following one did:

      ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Soft
      ware_Updates/US/Apple_II/HyperCard_IIGS_1.1/
     ]

If this looks too complicated to type, there is a link to this site on
Steve Cavanaugh's Apple Blossom web site at

     http://people.delphi.com/appleblossom

     [Dean's NOTE:  The URL on this page may not work either.]

     Getting HCGS from the web has one disadvantage. The manuals are not
included. You can buy the manuals, and even a set of disks, from The Byte
Works. The relevant product numbers are:

     a. APDA-48 Getting Started with HyperCard IIGS (manual) $15.00
     b. APDA-49 HyperCard IIGS Reference (manual) $25.00
     c. APDA-50 HyperTalk (manual) $15.00
     d. APDA-51 HyperCard IIGS disks $10.00
     e. APDA-52 HyperCard IIGS (APDA-48 to APDA-51, disks and all
                manuals) usually $60, but course participants may get
                this for a discounted price of $50.

According to the catalogues, US and Canadian customers should add $5.00 per
order (not per item) for shipping and handling. Call or write from other
countries to find the shipping and handling cost. The Byte Works can be
contacted at MikeW50@AOL.com, at their web site at BYTEWORKS@GENIE.geis.com
or by mailing to:

     Byte Works, Inc.
     8000 Wagon Mound Drive NW
     Albuquerque, NM 87120
     U.S.A.

3. You must be sufficiently familiar with HCGS to follow the instructions.

     This course, as mentioned, depends on the student knowing a little
about HCGS: what a stack is and what a field or button or script is. That
knowledge can be obtained from several sources, and doesn't take long to
pick up. Try these sources:

   The HCGS Tour: the first thing to try after installing HCGS is to launch
it, then click (once) on the button for Tour. This will familiarize you
with the HCGS tools and terminology.

   The HCGS Help stacks: Click on the "Help" button after launching HCGS,
or choose "Help" from the "Go" menu, to find an on-line equivalent to a
reference book on HyperCard. If you don't have real reference books, rely
on these stacks heavily.

   The Official Manuals: I recommend these highly. The first manual,
Getting Started with HyperCard IIgs, covers the most basic aspects of
creating and modifying stacks in a tutorial fashion. The HyperTalk
Beginner's Guide is quite elementary (as the title indicates), but holds
the hands of the nervous pretty well. Even if you decide not to get those
manuals, I strongly recommend that every participant have a copy of the
HyperCard IIgs Reference_. Its 389 pages cover every aspect of HCGS (except
scripting).

   Gareth Jones' HyperCard articles: If you don't have the HCGS manuals,
but want to get started, I've written a series of articles on HCGS. One
provides an overview of the program. Two discuss creating a simple word
processing stack that can load and save text files. Creating that stack is
good preparation for this course, though not so good as the "Birds" stack
in the manuals. Steve Cavanaugh has these articles up at:

     http://people.delphi.com/appleblossom/hq/

     [Dean's NOTE:  Add "articles/hcgsarticles.html" to the end of the
      URL above to go directly to Gareth's HCGS articles.]

   They may also be available now in the Delphi file library.

   Last, but not least important, HangTime is available every Tuesday night
to answer questions about HyperCard in A2Pro's "HyperBar & Grill Real Time
Conference." To get there once you've telnetted in, type "go com a2pro
conference". If you are visiting via the web and have a Java-enabled
browser you can go to

     http://www.delphi.com/a2pro

and follow the links to the "Chat Rooms".

     [Dean's NOTE:  Or you can go to the following URL which will tell
      you what chat(s) are currently taking place in the A2Pro
      conference area:

      http://www.delphi.com//dir-app/chat/forumchat.asp?sigdir=a2pro
     ]

THE PLAN

     This course is a series of written lessons plus support stacks showing
the progress of the project from lesson to lesson. The lessons, as I
currently conceive them, will be:

0. Lesson 0, this one, which gets the student ready for the course,
discusses the stack in general terms, and tells everyone how to get set up
for...

1. Lesson 1, sets up the backgrounds used in the stack. Homework,
personalizing the artwork for the backgrounds.

2. Lesson 2, The script to automatically move from card 1 to card 2 after
launching the stack. Visual effects, and how to choose them. Homework:
experiment with visual effects and choose ones for this stack.

3. Lesson 3, card fields and buttons vs. background fields and buttons.
Create card fields and buttons on the Menu card. Create some background
fields and buttons on the Date background. Homework: add some made-up
appointments for various days, enough to give a good workout for lesson 5.

4. Lesson 4, sorting a stack and creating a clickable menu. In this case,
the Menu card will get a menu of dates, in their proper order, and clicking
on a date in the field will take you to a card with appointments for that
date. This will be your first field script.

5. Lesson 5, simplifying data entry. In this lesson, you set up a data
entry system that involves a specialized card.

6. Lesson 6, XCMDs, XFCNs, and creating popup lists. You will create popup
lists to ease the job of entering the Year, Month, and Day for each Date
card. In the process, you will become familiar with the Scripters' Tools
stack.

7. Showing and hiding information. Shared and unshared text. By using a
background field which does NOT share text, you can enter and show more
information than is shown on the screen. Fields used for information
storage but not information display can be hidden.

8. Creating a calendar. An on-screen calendar is a perfect addition to an
appointment manager, but involves a bit of programming. I think that we can
manage to put this classy feature in.

9. Finishing up. I'm sure that many little tweaks and features will have
been put off until the end, and here they are! The topic of sounds will
probably go here.

10. Personal project. This can either be extra features in your appointment
calendar or a completely new HCGS stack that you've thought of. I'll be
available, as will my helpers, to discuss individual problems in
programming and design. Submission of the personal project will result in
the right to run my official "Certificate of Completion" stack. :-)

     I reserve the right to modify this outline as the course progresses.
My ideas may clarify, or students' comments may require a change or two.

SOME COMMENTS ABOUT DESIGNING STACKS

     Most books on programming recommend a strategy called "top-down
programming." For example, in the entertaining book ELEMENTARY PASCAL (by
Henry Ledgard and Andrew Singer), Sherlock Holmes opines:

          In my engagements as a criminal investigator I have always
     been careful to arrange all clues systematically and devise a
     complete hypothesis to a case before taking a single step out of
     my rooms in pursuit of a solution. The principle applies equally
     well to the use of the Analytical Engine [computer]. No matter
     how simple the task, it is necessary at the outset to formulate a
     clear and complete statement of the problem at hand, as well as a
     basic plan for solving it. The programmer should prepare sample
     input and output formats and design a general algorithm before
     writing any programme.

In other words, as I understand it, the top-down approach designs the
program before writing it. An excellent plan.

     HCGS differs from other languages, however, because you don't have to
design with pencil and paper first -- you can work just as well using the
pencil, field, and button tools on the computer screen. When the design is
good enough, half the work is done.

     A second aspect of HCGS is that a small, working program can be part
of an object, such as a button or field, and will move with it when it is
cut and pasted. So, let's say that you've decided to add a "Home" button to
your stack. You can Copy a button from another stack, paste it into your
own, and (more than likely) it will work perfectly. This can make a simple
stack more like assembling the parts of an Erector Set than sitting down to
write a program.

     Finally, my experience has been that a small, working stack can gain
features over time as they occur to you. I will use this fact in the lesson
to introduce quick-and-dirty solutions to a problem in one lesson, but
replace them with something more elaborate later.

HOMEWORK

     The homework for this week is simple. Get and install a copy of
HyperCard and familiarize yourself with its tools. In the next lesson,
we will start building a stack.
                       (JBLAKENEY, 16544, GO COM A2)

<<<<<   Sorry for taking so long to get this posted.  I've been extremely
"""""   busy so the course got pushed back a little bit.

The first lesson will be made available on Saturday (or Sunday depending on
when the file gets released in the A2Pro database).

Just to let you know.  People who only have the free web based accounts can
participate in the course because I will be making all the lessons
available from download from a web page off of the A2 University web page
which can be accessed by going to the A2Pro forum's page at:

     http://www.delphi.com/a2pro

An HTML version of this preview will also be made available from the A2
University page so that all the URLs and e-mail addresses will be links so
those people too lazy to type them can use them.  :-)
                       (JBLAKENEY, 16545, GO COM A2)


BERNIE 2.0. . . WELL, ALMOST   Dear Bernie users,
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
We regret of having to inform you that the much anticipated Bernie ][ The
Rescue 2.0 might not be ready by end of October. This delay has been caused
by increased support activities which always have top priority and hectic
business with our other jobs.

Sweet16 for BeOS is also affected by this delay. A release date will be
fixed at a later time.

Version 2.0 has been on the workbench since June, and all major features
are done. Still, we've been planning more than this, and we do not want to
release anything but the real thing.

We understand that many of you are waiting for version 2.0. For this
reason, we will make available a prerelease of version 2.0 by end of
October. We will ensure the prerelease is a worthy successor to your
current Bernie. Final version 2.0 will be introduced shortly after that,
the delay is rather insignificant.

We will soon let you know what new features are on the horizon, and what
else is waiting for you. Bernie 2.0 will set new standards in Apple II
emulation, and we're looking forward to sharing our efforts with you.

Thank you very much for your understanding.

woof woof,

Henrik

F.E.Systems
emutech@magnet.ch
                        (GUDATH, 16889, GO COM A2)


SPECTRUM 2.2 UNLEASHED
""""""""""""""""""""""
******** FLASH ******** FLASH ******** FLASH ******** FLASH ********

                       Spectrum 2.2 released
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[Hear all about it on the Monday night RTC at 10.00pm EST 26th Oct.]

The long awaited upgrade to Spectrum 2.2 is now released.
For pricing and shipping details, please contact Seven Hills directly by
Email at <sales@sevenhills.com>, or call voice (850) 575-0566 and leave a
message.

Short summary of the new features:

 + Spectrum now requires System 6.0.1.
 + Improved script execution speed.
 + Optimise scripts by compiling them.
 + Spectrum 2.2 and the XCMDs are Y2K compliant.
 + Optional Serial or TCP/IP environment.
 + Fully Integrated support for Marinetti 2.0.
 + Integrated multi-socket Telnet function.
 + Up to 32 simultaneous open TCP/IP connections.
 + View HTML files directly from within Spectrum.
 + Enhanced !Help! NDA includes Find function.
 + Internal support for Babelfish Import and Export.
 + Spectrum supports the Hierarchic Control Panel.
 + Updated Spectrum Port driver.
 + 57600 baud connections using Bernie ][ the Rescue.
 + More than 50 new or updated script commands.
 + More than 30 new replacement items.
 + Many enhanced and updated XCMDs:

 + The BinHQX XCMD now includes:
     BinSCII encoding and decoding.
     BinHex 4.0 encoding and decoding.
     MIME Base 64 multipart encoding and decoding.
     UUencode encoding and decoding.

 + Enhanced WorkBench XCMD replaces the ResEdit XCMD:
     Access and edit resource forks.
     Make MessageCenter and IPC calls.
     Make Toolbox & GS/OS calls.
     Peek and Poke.

[Hear all about it on the Monday night RTC at 10.00pm EST 26th Oct.]

******** FLASH ******** FLASH ******** FLASH ******** FLASH ********
                        (EWANNOP, 17164, GO COM A2)


WORDWORKS UNPLUGGED UNLEASHED   At last, I have finally finished and
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   released the WordWorksPro Unplugged patcher
created at KFest '98 during HackFest, and previously mentioned elsewhere
here on Delphi (though I can't find the messages now -- I wish Delphi had a
search function! Or did I miss something?).

For those who may have missed earlier postings, WWP Unplugged removes the
Softdisk "plug" that appears when you try to quit WordWorks Pro v2.1.2
(from Softdisk GS #68). If you don't have this particular version of the
WWP, you don't need this patcher.

The file has been uploaded to Delphi but appears not to have been cleared
yet. In the meantime, you can also get the file from the Trenco archive at
<ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/editors/wwpunplug10.shk>. By
Monday, I will also have BinaryII-wrapped and BinSCII versions available at
<ftp://ftp.gno.org/users/mhackett/> for anyone who prefers those formats.

-- Michael
                          (SAR, 16583, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Believe it or not, I've actually got an update to the WordWorks Pro
"""""   patcher. If you've already downloaded it, don't worry. You don't
need to get the new one, unless you plan to redistribute it, now or at any
time in the future. The new version just fixes an incompatibility with
System 5.0.x. I know, some people will ask why I bothered. I happened to
find the problem while working on the universal patcher (mentioned in other
recent messages), so I transferred the fix back. The docs said that it
should work with System 5, so I wanted to make that true.

The old version was never released to the Delphi libraries, but hopefully
the new one will be soon. In the meantime, once again, it is available by
FTP at the following locations (depending on the format you prefer):

   <ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/editors/wwpUnplg101.shk>
   <ftp://ftp.gno.org/users/mhackett/WWPUnplg101.bxy>
   <ftp://ftp.gno.org/users/mhackett/WWPUnplg101.bsq>

My preferred format is #2, but Devin likes #1, and some people will need
#3, so they're all there! Enjoy!

-- Michael
                          (SAR, 16876, GO COM A2)



                             BEST OF THE BEST
                             """"""""""""""""


17227 30-OCT 14:04 User Groups & Publications
     RE: Shareware Solutions II (Re: Msg 442)
     From: JOE_KOHN     To: ALL

My nephew just called to tell me that there's a front page article in
today's Wall Street Journal (Oct 30th) that mentions the Apple II computer.

He said that the article is primarily about how no-longer-made computers
are rising in price, and that my collection of Apple II computers might be
worth millions ;-)

I just checked with www.wsj.com, and found that articles are not posted
online. But, since I'm more than just a little curious, I'll make a quick
visit to the library later on to read the article.

In the meanwhile, do I hear any $10,000 bids for an Unenhanced IIe? ;-)

Joe Kohn




[EOA]
[A2P]------------------------------
                   A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
-----------------------------------
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]


MORE GSOFT TROUBLESHOOTING   > What I would like to know though, is why
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   > you're patching so many GS/OS calls.
> Although you're using interpreted code, surely you're just an
> application like anyone else? Just interested...

Actually, I'm not.

The problem is that the BASIC program is never really loaded by the loader
or started by GS/OS, since it's an interpreted file. Because of that, the
StartupTools call looks for the interpreted program's resources in the last
know program--GSoft BASIC itself. You _could_ actually make this work by
attaching the resources for your interpreted program to the GSoft.Sys16
file, but the technical term for asking someone to do that is, "Ick!"

So I have to fool GS/OS and the Loader into thinking that my interpreted
program, which they did not see loaded or started in the normal way, is
actually a full-fledged application. The tools don't give me a way of doing
that, short of loading an application and starting it with GS/OS. That
means I need to assign it its own user ID (no big deal). But it also means
I need to patch the MMStartUp call to _report_ that user ID. That's the
first patch. Then I have to convince GS/OS the current "application" is my
interpreted program. Patching GetName is the GS/OS patch. Next, I have to
convince the Loader of the same thing. That means patching LGetPathname and
LGetPathname2.

Just for grins, I also patched all startup and shutdown calls. Why? So
GSoft BASIC knows when you start a tool, and can shut it down if your
program aborts. The only safe alternative is to force you to reboot the
computer, which would be OK, but cleanly shutting things down and letting
you fix the error without rebooting seemed like a nice touch.

Mike Westerfield
                      (BYTEWORKS, 2210, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   Sheppy was right, to a point. My MMStartup call was too
"""""   heavy-handed. I fixed that, and the Control Panel no longer
crashes.

It doesn't work, but at least it doesn't crash anymore.

So _a_ problem still exists. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
Otherwise, it looks like I'm about to violate the old Apple licensing
agreement one more time by taking my disassembler to their code. :)

Mike Westerfield
                      (BYTEWORKS, 2211, GO COM A2PRO)


HYPERCARD GS COURSE TIDBITS   If you want to download the lessons from the
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""   text side of Delphi, then you go to the A2Pro
Forum's A2 University Database.  You do this by typing:

     go com a2p dat a2

Then do a "read" command to list all the files available in the A2
University Database.  Once you get to the file you want (the first lesson
of the HyperCard IIgs Course is called LESSON01.BXY) use the "down" command
and then tell Delphi what transfer protocol you want to use. ZModem is
usually the best but if it gives you lots of errors, try using Kermit
instead if your communications program supports it.

If you want to download the lessons through the web then point your web
browser to:

     http://www.delphi.com/a2pro

and click the "A2 University" link.  On the A2 University page click the
"A2 University Download" link and then you can select either LESSON01.BXY,
if you don't have problems downloading ShrinkIt archives with your web
browser, or select LESSON01.BSQ if you do.  The .BSQ archive is just a
ShrinkIt archive encoded as a BINscii text file.  You can decode the
BINscii file back into a ShrinkIt file by using the BinHQX XCMD in
Spectrum, GScii+ NDA, BSC-It (a ProDOS 8 program) or BINSCII (also a ProDOS
8 program).

In any case you end up with a ShrinkIt archive that you can unpack with
GSHK (the IIgs version of ShrinkIt) or Balloon.  Keep in mind that the
ProDOS 8 version of ShrinkIt will most likely not work to unpack the
lessons because some are bound to contain files with resource forks.

Hopefully I've covered all the bases with this post but if not, just holler
and we'll try to get you pointed in the right direction.

 Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
 ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session in A2Pro **
                      (JBLAKENEY, 2270, GO COM A2PRO)

<<<<<   Please note that there is a small mistake in the lesson 2 archive
"""""   that I uploaded to the database.  If you have already downloaded
it, just load the lesson into your favourite editor and replace:

     choose brush tool

with:

     choose tool brush

and everything will be fine.

Also note that the archive of lesson two that is available on the web page
has had this mistake fixed already.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

 Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
       ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session! **
                      (JBLAKENEY, 2288, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   FYI:
"""""
Those of you who entered an OpenCard handler like the example from Lesson.2
may find that every time you go back to the first card it immediately goes
to the next card. This effectively locks you out from working on the first
card. If you want to abort the OpenCard handler so that you can stay at the
first card then get to your first card and quickly type the OA-. sequence
to abort the handler. The handler runs quickly so you may have to try once
or twice before your abort sequence is recognised. Then, go into the card's
script and remove the handler. I'm sure in subsequent lessons this script
would be incorporated into a button's script anyway.

This problem will manifest itself if you have a handler similar to this one
taken from lesson.2:

on opencard
  visual scroll up slowly
  go to next card
end opencard

The OA-. sequence can be used to stop any script.

Paul.

Paul Schultz
schultp@delphi.com
sent your way via Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.5
                       (SCHULTP, 2298, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   I wasn't planning to put the openCard handler into a button, Paul.
"""""   Thank you for pointing out that a command-period stops the script,
though. The way that I generally disable an automatic handler is to create
a button on any card that has a script something like this:

on mouseup
  get script of card 1
  put "--" before it
  set script of card 1 to it
end mouseup

But we're getting a little ahead of things here. Buttons haven't been
covered yet :-)
                       (GARETH, 2299, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   Without jumping ahead too much, the solution to getting to the
"""""   first card can be easier. From any card type "edit script of card
1" into the messagebox and hit return. From there you may disable the
opencard script temporarily.

there are more elegant solutions, but for now, this is simple, and works.
                      (HANGTIME, 2302, GO COM A2PRO)


EVEN MORE BABELFISH BABBLING   I have a bablefish question....
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I've written a translator to import text (from an AppleSoft Basic file).
Importing works fine, but in the textInfoRec (sorry, I don't have the specs
with me, so that's probably the wrong name), I set the pCount to 5 and fill
in the ptr & handle.

The ascii Text exporter will export it fine, but the Teach exporter sets
both the foreground & background colors to black.  The html exporter sets
the text color to maroon or green.  Should I be creating a larger TextRec
or is the Teach exporter buggy?
                         (KWS, 2251, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   I would suspect that both might be buggy, and are not setting
"""""   defaults and then checking the actual pCount you have given. The
test would be to increase your pCount to 10, using Shaston 8 as the default
font at plain 8pt black on white.

If the others then behave, the problem will be theirs, and not yours. As it
is only another ten bytes to add to your record, it is probably the easiest
solution for now. We may not be able to get existing translators fixed...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 13 Oct 1998 - 281 till KFest '99
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum & Crock O' Gold 2.5
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 1.3 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                       (EWANNOP, 2263, GO COM A2PRO)


GNO SOURCE ON THE 'NET   Source for the GNO base distribution is now
""""""""""""""""""""""   available in one of two ways:  Anonymous FTP and
anonymous CVS.

You can obtain the GNO source via anonymous FTP from
ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/gno/base206/src. The files in that
directory hierarchy are updated daily from the master repository. Files
that have been recently added or modified will be listed in one or more of
the NEW.today, NEW.this.week, or NEW.this.month files.

Please download only what you need. Sites that attempt to download all or
large portions of the sources on a regular and frequent basis without first
requesting mirror status will be disabled. This is done to keep a
reasonable load level on Trenco.

For those sites which are able to make use of CVS (Concurrent Versions
System), the GNO sources can also be obtained by anonymous CVS in pserver
mode. As there is as yet no CVS port to the GS, this implies that you have
another (probably UNIX) machine to which you are downloading the sources.
Because of the size of the archive, you should also have a reasonable speed
of interconnect between your machine and ftp.gno.org.

The first time you obtain GNO sources via CVS, you must log in to the
repository, then check it out:

        cvs -d :pserver:cvs@ftp.gno.org:/usr/local/repository login
        Password: cvs
        cd /your/source/tree
        cvs -d :pserver:cvs@ftp.gno.org:/usr/local/repository checkout gno

After this is done, you can update your sources to match the most recent
version by doing the following:

        cd /your/source/tree/gno
        cvs update -PAd

Because doing updates by CVS does not use up as much bandwidth as does
downloading the entire source tree, feel free to do cvs updates on a
regular basis.  It usually doesn't make sense to do them more than once per
day, though

Questions on this matter should be directed to Devin Reade at
<gdr@trenco.gno.org>

Devin
                      (GLYNREADE, 2272, GO COM A2PRO)


TIME ZONES FOR THE IIGS   I've spent the last few months ironing out the
"""""""""""""""""""""""   details, but I have written a solution to give
the IIgs the ability to handle time zones. I have written a system tool to
give programmers a means to add time zones to any new code that gets
developed. Watch the Delphi libraries for a new control panel for the
non-programmers and a development kit for the programmers. As per this
discussion, the time zone is stored as a file on disk (accessible by Prodos
8 applications). A tool box interface has been written for GS/OS software
access. Accuracy is down to the second. POSIX compliance has been ignored
since my goal was to provide compatibility with applicable RFCs.

Geoff
                      (SISGEOFF, 2305, GO COM A2PRO)


GSOFT BLATANT PLUG   If you really want to program your IIgs in BASIC, I
""""""""""""""""""   wholeheartedly recommend GSoft BASIC from The Byte
Works (http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks/).  This language was released at
Kansas Fest this summer and is far better than any other BASIC available
for the IIgs.

It supports all sorts of things including the ability to use IIgs Toolbox
calls directly from BASIC.

Not only that but this product, being that it was just released, is still
being supported and improved.

 Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
       ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session! **
                      (JBLAKENEY, 2309, GO COM A2PRO)


IS C IN THE FUTURE OF A2U?   t would be relatively easy to organize an
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   online C course around "Learn to Program in C"
or "Toolbox Programming in C", our self-paced courses.

The first starts off at a rather basic level, but it gets rolling pretty
fast, eventually getting into linked lists, file I/O, and so forth. It
actually covers the AP Computer Science curriculum.

"Toolbox Programming in C" is more advanced. It assumes you already know C
well enough to handle programs with structures and pointers. It shows you
how to write desktop programs for the Apple IIGS.

If you want to organize the course, either book would be a great text.
Here's what I'd suggest:

1. Publish and publicize a start date and schedule. About one lesson a
week, with every fifth week as a catch-up, has worked well in past online
courses.

2. Start a thread here in A2Pro. I monitor A2Pro anyway, as do several
other excellent programmers. I will field any questions I see that have not
been covered first by someone else.

While this isn't a full blown course, it has everything but weekly chats.
Would something like this be of any interest to you--or anyone else?

Mike Westerfield
                      (BYTEWORKS, 2235, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   Just for everyone's information.  I'd love to arrange more A2U
"""""   courses including a course in C.  However, I'll need some help from
people with suggestions as to who would make a good instructor or better
yet, volunteers to teach.   (I have one idea for a C course instructor
right now but I also know he is quite busy with other things so I won't
bother him :-)

Right now, the only other A2U course I have on the back burners is a GSoft
BASIC course which should be starting in the new year.

 Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
 ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session in A2Pro! **
                      (JBLAKENEY, 2260, GO COM A2PRO)




[EOA]
[HWH]------------------------------
              HARDWORKING HARDWARE |
-----------------------------------
FOCUS DRIVE 520
"""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

                  FOCUS DRIVE 520 BY ALLTECH ELECTRONICS
                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Product Name:      Focus Drive 520
          Distribution:      Approximately $259 plus shipping
                             Alltech Electronics
                             2618 Temple Heights Drive
                             Oceanside, CA  92056
                             phones: 760-724-2404
          Requirements:      Apple //e or IIgs; any free slot other than
                             slot three; Apple IIgs System Software 5.0.4
                             or later or Apple II System Disk 3.2 or later
                             preferred.


     Probably the biggest omission in the stock issue Apple II is the lack
of a hard drive.  There's likely no one with an Apple II who has tried it
with a hard drive only to happily go back to life without one.  The
standard hard drive for the Apple II series, like the Macintosh, has
traditionally been hard drives of the Small Computer Systems Interface
(SCSI, pronounced, "scuzzy") type.  Unfortunately, adding SCSI drives to
the Apple II has never been as simple as it could be.  First, a SCSI card
must be added, then a drive must be placed in an appropriate housing, and
there are the issues of cabling, SCSI ID numbers, termination, terminator
power, and others to deal with.  Isn't there an easier way?

     Certainly.  Alltech Electronics, the one stop Apple II hardware shop,
has a clear winner in its hard drive on a card, the Focus Drive.  I ordered
a 520 megabyte drive for use in a ROM_3 Apple IIgs.  This drive is based
around a 2.5 inch IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics) hard drive, originally
designed for use in notebook style computers, adapted for use with the
Apple //e and IIgs.  All you have to do is drop it in a slot (other than
slot 3 and the dedicated memory expansion slots), set the Control Panel on
a IIgs appropriately, and off you go.

     The Focus Drive includes software for testing, formatting, and
partitioning the drive using the Apple IIgs's famillar interface.
Unfortunately, it does not include the same software for use with a //e.

     While the Focus Drive does not use direct memory access (DMA) to
transfer data to the memory of the Apple IIgs, it is still very fast--it
appears to be as fast as a RamFAST and SCSI drive in normal use, which is
very fast indeed.  In fact, not using DMA can be an advantage if your
system uses a non-DMA compatible accelerator or memory card.

     What more can be said?  The Focus Drive is fast, simple to install,
simple to use, and affordable.  It also comes from one of the most ardent
supporters of the Apple II out there.  Alltech Electronics has a real
winner in its Focus Drive.



[EOA]
[FRE]------------------------------
                FREEWARE FAVORITES |
-----------------------------------
QUIT-TO
"""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

                             HIERARCHIC 1.6.3
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Product Name:      Hierarchic 1.6.3
          Distribution:      Freeware; available in the Delphi A2
                             Database, Genie A2 Library, and Apple II ftp
                             sites.
                             Richard Bennett
                             Seven Hills Software Solutions
          Requirements:      Apple IIgs; 20k disk space.


     _Hierarchic_ is an extension for the Apple IIgs System Software that
does one very important thing: it allows the Apple IIgs to use hierarchical
menus.  _Hierarchic_ 1.6.3 is an update of the _Hierarchic_ permanent
initialization file (PIF) for the Apple IIgs.

     Hierarchical menus are a great aid in organizing the pull down menus
used by most GS/OS based programs.  Instead of listing separate menu items,
a hierarchical menu allows you to list category items in the menu, and when
you place your pointer on the category item, another menu appears to let
you select the actual menu item.  For instance, _Transprog III_ allows you
to quit the current application and shut down, "cold" restart, or "warm"
restart the IIgs.  Instead of listing these three items separately in its
pull down menu, only the "Quit Application" item is listed, and when the
cursor is placed on this item while holding the mouse button down, the
three options mentioned above emerge from a second pull down menu, offset
to one side.  This saves space on your IIgs desktop and better organizes
menu items.  Hierarchical menus are required by a number of current Apple
IIgs programs, including _WebWorks GS_, _Super Menu Pack_, _Spectrum_, and
_Transprog III_.

     There have been several changes in this version of _Hierarchic_.
First, it's become a Control Panel, meaning it needs to be placed in the
CDev folder in the System folder in your boot drive to be active (note:
while it is possible to have _Hierarchic_ loaded "on the fly" by programs
that need it such as _Spectrum_ very few programs offer this capability and
it is not the preferred method to activate _Hierarchic_.)  If you have an
earlier version of the _Hierarchic_ init in your System.Setup folder,
either delete or deactivate it.

     Secondly, as a Control Panel, the two settings for _Hierarchic_ ("Drag
delay" and "Initial delay") are accessed through the New Desk Accessory
Control Panel in the Apple menu that is in the upper left corner of most
IIgs programs.

     As installed, _Hierarchic_ works rather transparently.  It really does
nothing until a program that needs it calls forth its magic.  Using
hierarchical menus adds a whole new dimension to your Apple II computing
experience.  Thanks to Richard Bennett and Seven Hills for making this
wonderful Apple IIgs addition available.



         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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         :      Seduced by the chocolate side of the force.      :
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[EOA]
[INN]------------------------------
                     EXTRA INNINGS |
-----------------------------------
About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
"""""""""""""""   the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
service (GO CUS 11).

This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes.  Apple II Forever!

     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1998 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All
       rights reserved.

     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
       thelamp@delphi.com.

     * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on
       Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,
       http://lamp.sheppyware.net.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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