[HEA]
    _____________________   ___                                   _
    |___   ______________| |   |                                 | |
        |  | _             |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |   ____ _   _ _   _   ______     | |
        |  || |            |   |  / __ \ | | / \_/ \  | ___ \    | |
        |  || |__   ____   |   | / /  \  | |  /\ /\ \ | |  \ \   | |
        |  ||  _ \ |  _ \  |   | \ \__/  | | | |_|| | | |__/ /   | |
        |  || | | || |_||  |   |  \___/|_| |_|    |_| | ____/    |_|
        |  || | | || |__   |   |____________________  | |         _
        |__||_| |_|\____/  |________________________| | |        |_|
                                                      | |
         Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi        | |
                                                      |_|

-----------------------------------


                         >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                              THE LAMP REVIEWS

                                 DREAMWARE

              AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
            "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"

 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 The Lamp!            An Onipa'a Software Production        Vol. 3, No. 2
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
 Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
 Internet Mail, Editor.................................lyle837@delphi.com
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 
                            TABLE OF CONTENTS
                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            February 15, 2000


HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER
     Contemplations-------------------------------------------------- [OPN]

A2 DISTILLATIONS
     Repair of Mice---------------------------------------------------[ROM]
     Alternative Monitors for the IIgs--------------------------------[MON]
     Message Numbers, Text Side vs Web Side---------------------------[TVW]
     Utility to Check Disk Interleave---------------------------------[ILV]
     Sweet16 now Available--------------------------------------------[SWT]
     Apple II Video Overlay Card--------------------------------------[VOC]
     Ryan Suegana Plans World Tour!-----------------------------------[RST]
     Un-Shk for PC----------------------------------------------------[USP]
     JEPEG Viewers for IIgs-------------------------------------------[JPV]
     COG 3.3 Available in A2 Database---------------------------------[COG]
     Talk is Cheap Source Code----------------------------------------[TIC]
     3.5 Drive on a //e-----------------------------------------------[TFD]
     Internet World 99 Disk Available from SS II----------------------[IWD]

DON'T FORGET!
     Y ][ KFest (KFest 2000)------------------------------------------[GVO]

A2P DISTILLATIONS
     Spectrum Scripting Question--------------------------------------[SSQ]

THE LAMP REVIEWS
     APPLEDESIGN: The Work of the Apple Industrial Design Group-------[TLR]

DREAM WARE
     The Apple IIgsX2-------------------------------------------------[DRM]

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

                                [*] [*] [*]

READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will find
something like:

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].

[OPN]------------------------------
         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
-----------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson
  [lyle837@delphi.com]

                              Contemplations
                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     The fourteenth floor patio, High Above the Rock River, provides a
great place for contemplation.  The water downstream reminds you of where
your life has gone before... the water upstream reminds you that life has a
lot to offer in the future.  The view of the city reminds you that the
world includes a diversity of people.  It also reminds you that learning
more about these people will help you understand them better, and in turn
help people get along.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     It boggles the mind to contemplate where an old geezer like me has
been.  I was born and raised on a farm in the northern United States.  The
first eight years we were without electricity.  Contact with the outside
world consisted of a daily newspaper from the big city delivered the day
after publication.  And a telephone on a party line with 27 parties.

     Contrast that with sending email to a bunch of people all over the
world for permission to include their post in _The Lamp!_ and getting
replies before you have finished sending all the mail.

                                [*] [*] [*]

[EOA]


ASCII ART BEGINS
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   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |
   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |
   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |
   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |
   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|
   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _
   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|
                                                            | |
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                                                            |_|

ASCII ART ENDS


[EOA]

DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson
  [lyle837@delphi.com]

[ROM]
REPAIR OF MICE
""""""""""""""
(Starting with set aside pc mice...)

Since the right mouse button (for most users) gets very little use,
compared to the left, I use dead PC mice for parts. Specifically the button
switch, which is the same as the one in my Kensington Trackball.  Using
desoldering braid, it's pretty easy to replace this switch. You can fix
your Apple mice with the same switch, if it's the switch that has died.

 Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 29 Jan 00 10:07:35 pm
 cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v3.2
 Y][Kfest, July 26-30, 2000 - 179 days till Y][Kfest
 Using Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.

(CKNOBLO, 29181, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[MON]
ALTERNATIVE MONITORS FOR THE IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
In message 'GS monitor on last legs' DAVID_PIERCE said:

> My question is what are my alternatives?

Well, you should keep an eye out for any analog RGB monitor that can
horizontally sync down to 15.75 kHz.

This includes:
   AppleColor RGB Monitor (the IIgs monitor)
   Commodore 1084 (and variants such as the 1084S)
   Commodore 1902 (although most of these only do digital RGB)
   Tandy CM-8 (not sure about model but it was used with the Coco3 )
   Atari monitors used with the ST series (sorry, don't know models)
   Some TVs (one made by a company who's name starts with an M)

I'm sure there are other options. For example, there are devices called
scan doublers available for the Amiga that change the 15.75 kHz horizontal
refresh to 31.5 kHz so that the Amiga can be hooked up to a VGA or SVGA
monitor. There has been some talk about these on comp.sys.apple2 but I
don't think anyone has actually tried one of these on a IIgs yet.

You could also keep an eye out for a used Second Sight card so that you can
use VGA or SVGA monitors.

Another alternative is hope that someone creates a new SVGA card for the
IIgs that works better than the Second Sight did. :-)

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum

(28785, JBLAKENEY, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
The Commodore monitors (at least) were made by Magnavox, and Magnavox
equivalents exist. 8CM515 is one model number and there is at least one
more.

Gary R. Utter

(28790, UTTER, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Thanks for this information. Would I need an adaptor for those other
monitors? I think I need to start looking at the homes for old computers.

And I don't think I will hold my breath waiting for a new SVGA card :)

David R. Pierce

(28820, DAVID_PIERCE, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
You would need to make a cable to connect one of the other types of
monitor to your IIgs unless you are talking about VGA/SVGA monitors in
which case you need to try a scan doubler like I mentioned.

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum

(28828, JBLAKENEY, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Add the following to your list. The adapters required to connect these to
the IIgs are listed. Note: you can use a 9-pin to HD-15 pin adapter then
the MacVGA adapter on the Multisync I & II if you can't find the correct
adapter. These monitor should be quite easy to find (except the TIMM) at a
local used computer center or on eBay. You also get the bonus of being able
to use these monitors on Macs and PCs and on the SecondSight if you happen
to find one.

NEC Multisync (Original) using Mac 15pin to 9 pin adapter (no switches)
NEC Multisync II (not 2A!) using Mac 15pin to 9 pin adapter (no switches)
NEC Multisync 3D using Mac-VGA Belkin adapter
    (switches don't matter. This monitor supports a composite sync source)
Toshiba TIMM using Mac-VGA Belkin adapter set to composite sync source.

Note: These monitors should also work with an Amiga or any other machine
that outputs a 15.75khz RGB signal with the correct adapter.

(28879, LT307, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
The TIMM (Toshiba Integrated Multimedia Monitor) was a 20" combo TV/VGA
Monitor that Toshiba released in 1995. They advertised it quite abit when
it first came out. I remember the slogan being "You can do anything with
TIMM".

It was a great idea but the monitor had several problems.
  1. Its list price was $999 (about $850 street)
  2. the monitor had a .58 dot pitch which was only good for 640x480 and
     maybe 800x600 (and great for the IIgs)
  3. from what I have seen they marketed it in big chain stores as a fancy
     TV not a computer monitor.

Toshiba promised better models but discontinued the monitor in late 96
early 97 due to poor sales. After that QVC got a whole bunch of them and
sold them for $300 a piece. One can find them on eBay for $200-250 or you
may be able to find them in Amiga newsgroups for sale too, they seem to
like them alot. Otherwise they can be quite hard to find as not many were
built.

(28945, LT307, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[TVW]
MESSAGE NUMBERS... TEXT SIDE <---> WEBSIDE
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Re: Msg 28631)' RSUENAGA said:

> Okay, seeing as you're talking about textside message 28543, it's still
> there.
>
> If you're looking at it from webside, I have no idea how to get that
> message number.

Well, going to text side and doing a:

     dir 28543 idseq

while in the forum reveals that the web side number is 2583.4 so anyone
wanting to read it would have to go to this URL:

     http://www.delphi.com/apple2/messages/?msg=2583.4&ctx=1

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum

(28758, JBLAKENEY, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Are those numbers just coincidence?

David R. Pierce

(28784, DAVID_PIERCE, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
Yes they are. I noticed it when I checked it but figured I better not say
anything so that I wouldn't confuse anyone. :-)

The text side message numbers just go sequentially from 1 up but the web
side message numbers actually number the threads sequentially from 1 up
and put the number of each message in each thread sequentially from 1 up
after the period.

So text side message 28534 is the 28,534th message posted to the A2 forum
and web side message 2853.4 is 4th message of the 2,853rd thread in the A2
forum.

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum

(28829, JBLAKENEY, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Thanks for clearing that up. It looked an awful lot like it must be a
coincidence, but it is good to hear that it really is. I liked your
explaining how the numbers are generated too.

David R. Pierce

(28847, DAVID_PIERCE, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[ILV]
UTILITY TO CHECK DISK INTERLEAVE FORMAT
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Does anyone know of a utility that'll check which interleave a disk is
formatted at?

(28798, WAYNEJ, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Chinook SCSI Utilities. . .

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution

(28803, RSUENAGA, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
That would work if I was looking at hard drives, however I'm looking at
floppy disks.

(28807, WAYNEJ, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Wayne,

I think Photonix (and maybe ZZCopy) shows the interleave factor.

- henrik
Henrik Woof Gudat

woof woof

(28812, GUDATH, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
Thanks Henrik, I'd forgotten about Photonix since it doesn't work with the
SuperDrive controller card. However it'll tell me most of what I wanted to
know.

(28831, WAYNEJ, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SWT]
SWEET16 NOW AVAILABLE
"""""""""""""""""""""
I'm pleased to announce that Sweet16 1.3.2 is now available. This version
fixes a number of bugs.

You can download Sweet16 by visiting:

<http://www.sheppyware.net/products/beos/sweet16/>

Here's what's fixed:

1. HGR graphics now work right on Intel systems.

2. Low-level mouse emulation is in place, which means most 8-bit
   applications with mouse support now work right. There are a handful of
   exceptions.

3. Switching to full-screen mode now hides the mouse.

4. Fixed a minor glitch where the speed display might show a negative
   number for a moment when you first start up.

5. Fixed a couple of rare crashes. So rare that nobody ever reported them,
   except for a couple of really crafty testers.

6. The Mount Physical Disks window's list items are taller, so the icons
   aren't squished flat anymore.

There are just a couple of minor new features:

1. Added 20 MHz and 40 MHz speed options to the speed control slider in the
   preferences. Obviously if your computer isn't fast enough to emulate
   these speeds, it's not going to help you much.

2. Added 0.25 and 0.5 MHz speed options too. Why you'd want them, I don't
   know. Unless you want to play a game you're not very good at, or just
   like slow motion.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(SHEPPY, 28915, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
If you've already paid for Sweet16 once, you don't have to do it again.

If you haven't paid the shareware fee before, you do need to.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(29317, SHEPPY, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[VOC]
WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE APPLE II VIDEO OVERLAY CARD?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Interesting enough for some of you to answer this for me....

What can one do with an Apple II Video Overlay Card ?

I gotten my hands on one, and got excited. But I don't know what to do with
it, and what I can do with it !

(28946, WILLIEYEO, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Well you can use your AppleColorRGB as a TV. ( I use it to play my SNES :))
I think you can also use it to title videos. Someone did make software for
it but I don't remember who made it. Using HyperCard GS produced good
results for me personally.

(28947, LT307, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Just wondering, but does it use the whole screen as a TV or do you still
have the border?

 Dain Neater.... - Sat 22 Jan 2000 12:04:43 pm
 Message delivered by Spectrum 2.2 via Marinetti 2.0.1
 and rushed to you by Crock O' Gold 3.2!
 Bernie II the Rescue 2.5

(28951, STILLHAVEIT, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
The most obvious application of the card, as the name implies, is mixing
and/or superimposing Apple II graphics modes over live a video signal. In
otherwords you can use your IIgs to create homemade subtitles on a foreign
film, add letter titles and animated graphics, make "stainglass" or
transparent logos (such as most TV stations now use in the corner) or just
have fun doddling on the faces of characters on TV. :) I believe you'd
require two VCRs to make a recording any of your video mixing however.

The other use is to bring an NTSC video signal onto your AppleColor RGB
monitor, either by itself or underlapping a IIgs application (i.e. watch TV
while using ProTERM 3.1 on the same screen, or just turn your RGB screen
into a dedicated game console display). The input video image *cannot* be
put in a sizeable window, it's just full screen or nothing.

Yet another use of the card is to output _true_ and clean NTSC video from
your IIgs. That is Super-Hi-Res graphics output to a TV set or VCR will not
have fringing and a rainbow affect. Everything will look crisp and clear
with correct colors, unlike the built-in composite-out port in back of the
IIgs. The card is worthwhile for this feature alone IMO.

Still another use is viewing interlaced graphics. SuperConvert, and I
believe at least one slide show demo out there, will let you look at
320x400 and 640x400 images on the AppleColor RGB (interlaced mode does
indeed pull off these higher resolutions, but at a cost of flickering quite
a bit). Incidentally, there's a IIgs Video Graphics Controller chip (VGC)
on every Video Overlay Card, which means you could in theory write software
that lets you view 4,096 color Super-Hi-Res graphics on an Apple IIe.
Unfortunately very little software, if any at all, was ever written to take
advantage of the VOC, much like the Second Sight. I still have one slot
free in my ROM 3 system, and it's reserved for a VOC if I can ever find
one. :)

Mitchell Spector
 {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}

(28953, SPECTOR1, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""

28963 23-JAN 03:16 General Chatter
     Video Overlay Card (Re: Msg 28946)
     From: JBLAKENEY    To: WILLIEYEO (NR)

In message 'Video Overlay Card' WILLIEYEO said:

> What can one do with an Apple II Video Overlay Card ?

You can use the Card to Overlay computer images onto Video. :-)

I've used mine to do titling of home videos and have always wanted to use
it to add some cheesy animated effects to some of my home made movies.

You can also use it to watch TV or videos on your IIgs' RGB monitor which
gives you a really nice picture. You can even overlay your desktop on that
video and continue to use your IIgs while the video plays behind your work.

Also, using SuperConvert, you can view images in 640x400 interlaced mode
which is kind of nice at times. There is an archive floating around of a
demo called VOC.400 that has an Applesoft program with an assembly routine
that displays a slide show of 640x400 images using the VOC. I have the
archive here if anyone would like me to upload it to Delphi and it isn't
already here.

I also came up with a method that would allow you to view 640x200 with 16
colours or 320x200 with 256 colours but it would require tweaking the card
to adjust the "focus" of the resulting image as well as software that I
haven't written yet.

If FaceLift were to ever be released, I'd be tempted to write a driver to
allow you to run your desktop in 640x400 mode because, interlace flicker
aside, being able to do that from time to time can definitely be an asset.

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum
[EOA]


[RST]
RYAN SUENAGA PLANS WORLD TOUR!
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hi, I normally don't post from webside, but I'm kinda stuck :) In any case,
I will be doing a rather long trip pre and post KFest this year (with
MacWorld and KFest stuck in the middle of it), and if any Apple II user
groups are meeting and would welcome me as a guest (I would be willing to
speak if that's a requirement :) I'd like to know about it. I'll be in
southern California from July 13 to 18, in New York from July 18-21,
Chicago from July 21-24, and northern California from July 30-August 3.
Thanks. . .

Ryan

(28962, RSUENAGA, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[USP]
UN-SHK FOR PC
"""""""""""""
folks

excuse me if this looks messy ... first post from webside :)

is there a un-shk available for the (shhh ... gasp shock horror) PC?

i have been learning how to use a pentium my wife bought and since she is
the boss ... it is now our internet connection and of course ... i want to
un-shk things :)

(now to convince her that we need BeOS and Sweet 16 and Ernie on this
pentium :)

Kevin Noonan

(28966, GSWOMBAT, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Two ways I can think of off the top of my head.

1) Nulib. This is a freeware utility that runs in a MS DOS session. It's
available at most ftp sites.

2) Transfer your file to an emulator and have the emulator do the
un-shrinking.

Mark Percival
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

An Apple II fanatic since 1979

(28967, PERCIM, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
Thanks for the nulib suggestion ... are there any windows based shk things?
... i guess not or you would have mentioned them :)

Kevin Noonan

(28974, GSWOMBAT, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
All I'm aware of is Nulib, which is a command line based DOS application. I
have it set in my path so I can un-SHK files from any location (I also have
a tiny program that automatically brings up a DOS prompt in your current
directory to make things easier in regards to that).

Ian Schmidt did compile Win32 native version of Nulib that can only
unshrink, although unlike the DOS version it can deal with _long filenames_
and keep them intact. It wasn't publically released however, nor was it
completed to the point of having a graphical interface. It was basically
whipped up to help move Soundsmith files over to his PC for his MTP WinAmp
plug-in. :)

Mitchell Spector
 {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}

(28983, SPECTOR1, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[JPV]
JEPEG VIEWERS FOR IIgs
""""""""""""""""""""""
Although JepGS 1.1 does a fair job at viewing JPEG--including the ability
to display images in color on a stock or Second Sight equipped IIgs--I'd
recommend "JPEGView" as a better alternative.

Why? Simply because JPEGView takes only a few moments to view the image,
while JepGS can take several minutes or as much as an hour or more (even
with a 15 MHz accelerator). I personally find viewing JPEG on a IIgs
unbareable and unacceptable. The conversion/waiting process is *much* too
slow and your left viewing the image in a 320x200 resolution with 4-bit
color or greyscale. People are giving away old 386/486's with 14" SVGA
monitors these days, which are far more suitable for handling the JPEG
format.

Mitchell Spector
 {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}

(29023, SPECTOR1, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[COG]
COG 3.3 AVAILABLE IN A2 DATABASE
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Name: COG33.BXY (Telecommunications)
Date: 27-JAN-2000 02:13
  By: EWANNOP
Size: 391968

Crock O' Gold 3.3. Includes full installer from COG 2.x, and updater from
COG 3.x. Many bug fixes and some new features. COG is an Offline reader for
Delphi using Spectrum 2.2, and optionally Marinetti 2.x. Uploaded by the
Author.

(TONYW1, 29071, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Leon has found a few minor bugs in this update. Only one needs to be
mentioned here, as it affect those updating to COG 3.3 from COG 3.2.

Those installing COG for the first time, can ignore what follows...

After you have unpacked the COG33.BXY archive, copy the 'Genie.Connect'
file from your existing COG3 folder, to the COG3 folder in the new archive.

As Genie is no longer accessible from a dialup connection, the
'Genie.Connect' function has been removed from the updated COG 3.3 scripts.
However I forgot to update the 'Updater' script to reflect that!  If you do
not copy that file, the 'Updater' script will fail half way through the
update process.

All bugs will be fixed in future updates of COG.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 28 Jan 2000 - 180 days till Y2KFest
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.3
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/

(29144, EWANNOP, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[TIC]
TALK IS CHEAP SOURCE CODE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
I know that a lot of people here don't read CSA2, and with very valid
reasons. :) However, once in a while a gem does appear there, and in this
case it's from none other than Don Elton, concerning an FTP site he's set
up for his Talk Is Cheap telcomm program. For those interested, here's the
post:

<::::::>
comp.sys.apple2 #57227

From: delton@pro-carolina.cbbs.cts.com (Don Elton)
ftpmail server
Lines: 14
Date: Thu Jan 27 19:36:44 CST 2000

I've made an ftpmail server available on my Linux machine for Apple 2
users. This is a robot that will let you ftp via email commands. Email
ftpmail@cbbs.cts.com with HELP in the message body for info on how to use
the server.

There's a small Apple 2 section now that includes source and object code
for my telecom program Talk is Cheap (TIC). If you have other files you'd
like to contribute email them to me at delton@cbbs.cts.com.

Don Elton
delton@cts.com
Columbia, SC

http://www.midcarolina.org
<::::::>

(29152, HKATZ, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
The source code for TIC is also in the A2P data base.

Lyle Syverson, Editor, _The Lamp!_
lyle@sinnfree.sinnfree.org
lyle837@delphi.com

(29157, LYLE837, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[TFD]
3.5 DRIVE ON A //e
""""""""""""""""""
I've been using 3.5" drives on my //e for years. I started with an AMD 3.5"
hooked to a Laser UDC controller, and have just added an Apple SuperDrive;
both the AMD and the SuperDrive run off the 3.5" controller card (or
whatever Shreve now calls it according to Barry. : )) BTW--the SuperDrive
WILL run off the UDC card, but only as a 800k drive. (From experience, if
you run across one, stay away from the Laser brand 3.5 drives. They're a
piece of ....oh right, this is a family channel. : ))

Later.............Howard

(29320, HKATZ, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
3.5" Drive information and compatibility info can be found here:

<http://www.apple2.org/A2WebRef>

Selecting the Contents link and then the 3.5 Drives heading. Following that
is 3 to 4 pages of various things, drive brands, what work with what Apple
II using what card or interface.

If anyone has anything to add to that, email it to tdiaz@apple2.org

In looking over that stuff it is not the best example of organization but
it is fairly complete. :)

Tony

(29321, T_DIAZ, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[IWD]
"INTERNET WORLD 99" DISK AVAILABLE From Shareware Solutions II
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Shareware Solutions II has available a two 3.5" disk set that is filled
with the latest versions of all Marinetti related freeware and shareware
applications released to date. Entitled "Internet World 99," the disks
include Marinetti v2.0.1, the TCP/IP Drivers for SIS v1.1, Crock O' Gold
v3.1, gsAIM v1.1, gw-ftp, and the Open Source version of Geoff Weiss's
TimeZone Tool056.

"Internet World '99" is available from Shareware Solutions II for $5.

Joe Kohn
c/o Shareware Solutions II
166 Alpine St
San Rafael, CA 94901-1008

(29482, JOE_KOHN, GO COM A2)
[EOA]





[GVO]
GREAT VACATION OPPORTUNITY... meet old friends... meet new A2 friends...
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
 ______      _____
(      )   (      )     ____________________________________________
 |     |  /     /      (        ____________________________2000____)
 |     | /     /        |      |
 |     |/     /         |      |                         II Infinitum!!
 |           /          |      |______
 |     |\     \         |      _______) __________    ________   ________
 |     | \     \        |      |       (     _____)  (     ___) (__    __)
 |     |  \     \       |      |        |   |__       \    \       |   |
 |     |   \     \      |      |        |    __)       \    \      |   |
 |     |    \      \    |      |        |   |_____   ___\    \     |   |
(______)    (________) (_______)       (__________) (_________)    |___|


Help usher in the 21st century with the Apple II!!

 When: July 26-30, 2000
 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri

+++

The most important Apple II event of the year, Y ][ KFest (KFest 2000), is
on our calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place
on your calendar, too.

Better yet, KFest is back with the same great prices as last year!

Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening
(dinner) on July 26, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 30.
(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night Out On The
Town!)

+++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++

 Double room: $225
 Single room: $275
 Spouse rate (bring the spouse or son or daughter): $175
 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175

+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++

 Double room: $275
 Single room: $325
 Spouse rate (bring the spouse or son or daughter): $225
 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225

Those cool KFest "soft-wear" T-shirts will also be available again this
year for $15, but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form
below.)

+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++

Like last year, Y ][ KFest will start early for those who'd like to arrive
a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on Tuesday
night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned, although
the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant for some
of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!

The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only):

 Double room: $25
 Single room: $33

For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in
will be from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.

Current plans call for formal Y ][ KFest sessions to begin with dinner in
the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed
by the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some great
plans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!

Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
slated for Saturday afternoon.

Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.

On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at Jess &
Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.

All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
guardian.

 ***

Y ][ KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc.,
makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and
Macintosh.

If you have questions about Y ][ KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you
can find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:

kfest-help@kfest.org

 ... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page at:

http://www.kfest.org

If you're thinking about attending Y ][ KFest, please join the KFest
Internet e-mail chat:

To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to
majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text:

                subscribe kfest

You will receive a confirmation e-mail. In order to be signed up for the
list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions
dictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.

 ---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---

Y ][ KFest Registration Form

View and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default) or
any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum.

Registering for Y ][ KFest

  <> By phone:
      - Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515
      - Be prepared to give the information requested in the
         KFest Registration Form below.
  <> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number:
      - Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form.
         Email: <kfest@intrec.com> (NOTE: email is not secure.)
           Fax: 602/992-0232

  <> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order:
      - Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form.
      - Mail the form with the payment to:
         InTrec Software, Inc.
         Attn: KFest Registration
         3035 E Topaz Cir
         Phoenix, Az 85028-4423

 Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.

 Registration Cost Check Applicable
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Early Bird rates (before April 15)

 Double $225 [ ]
 Single $275 [ ]
 Spouse only $175 [ ]
 Off campus $175 [ ]

Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door)

 Double room $275 [ ]
 Single room $325 [ ]
 Spouse only $225 [ ]
 Conference only $225 [ ]

Early Arrival rates

 Double $25 [ ]
 Single $33 [ ]

 T-Shirts $15 ea

 May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No

If NO, how can we contact you for confirmation?:__________________________

__________________________________________________________________________

Roommate preference: _____________________________________________________

 Prefer a smoker/non-smoker. Check one: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke

 KFest Softwear: Order a memorable collectible Y ][ KFest T-Shirt? $15 ea
 Quantity: [ ] [ ] [ ]  [ ]  [ ]   [ ]
     Size: SML MED LRG XLRG 2XLRG 3XLRG

 Today's Date: ________/_________/_________

  1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... ______________

  2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... ______________

  3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ............. ______________

  4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... ______________

  5- Arizona residents only add .07% tax: .............. ______________

  6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. ______________

  Discover, Visa, Mastercard or American Express accepted.
  Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must
  be in US dollars from a US bank.

  _______________________________ ____________________________________
  First Name Last Name

  ______________________________________________________________________
  Organization (if applicable to Y ][ KFest)

  ______________________________________________________________________
  Shipping Address

  ______________________________________________________________________
  City

  _______________________________________________ _____________________
  State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code

  _______/_______________________ _______/_____________________________
  Day Phone Eve Phone

  [______________________________________________________________________
  Internet Mail Address

  [ ] [ / ]
  Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-Amex) Expiration Date

  ______________________________________________________________________
  Name on Card (please print clearly)

  ______________________________________________________________________
  Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.)

  If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure,
consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the card
number.

 Sponsored by:

  InTrec Software, Inc.
  3035 E Topaz Circle
  Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423
  Voc:602/992-1345
  Fax:602/992-0232
  <kfest@intrec.com>
  <http://www.kfest.org>

  ---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]---
(CINDYADAMS, 27387, GO COM A2)





[EOA]
[A2P]------------------------------
                   A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
-----------------------------------
DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2PRO
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson
   [lyle837@delphi.com]

[SSQ]
SPECTRUM SCRIPTING QUESTION
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I currently am working on a script that opens a tcp socket, closes it by
signing off, then closes it with a close tcpsocket.  Yet, for a few seconds
after I do that, the connection still shows up active in my TCPIP pull down
menu.  Is this normal?

My code looks something like this:

tcpconnect
open TCPsocket "$1:110" 1 pop3

(other actions)

send tcpdata "quit$9"
waitfor string "+OK"
waitfor string "^M"
close tcpsocket 1

Thanks.

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 The Geek shall inherit the earth
 Delivered by Spectrum 2.2 and Crock O' Gold 3.0!

(2866, RSUENAGA, GO COM A2P)

>>>>>
"""""
Yes, this is normal. The connection is kept open for a short while to
ensure any packets sent by you or the machine you are connected to have a
chance to get through.

In the scripts I whipped together ages ago as a way to test my POP3 logic,
I used a Set TCPClosedResponse command and watched for that text while
doing my POP3 stuff and if I received it, then I do my Close TCPSocket
command. This results in a delay between receiving my last e-mail and the
script actually ending but it has a couple of benefits. It means that when
the script ends, the socket will be closed and it also gives you a way to
be able to detect and clean up stuff if the socket is closed by the server
prematurely.

 Jeff Blakeney
 Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum

(2868, JBLAKENEY, GO COM A2P)

>>>>>
"""""
Be aware that if you close a socket before all the data has arrived, you
might run into problems.

Spectrum allocates a 4K buffer for data that it requests in a TCPIPReadTCP
command. If a socket closes before all the data has arrived, Marinetti will
incorrectly send everything it has back, and not just the amount requested.
If the amount of data waiting is greater than 4K, this will overwrite the
end of the allocated buffer and cause Spectrum to crash.

This is a bug in Marinetti, as Spectrum is following the rules correctly.
Richard knows about this bug, and should be issuing an update to Marinetti
at some time in the future.

Whether this is a real problem or not depends on what you are doing when
you close the socket. Probably most things you do will be OK. However I can
repeat the bug at will by accessing a web page that is greater than 4K.
When reading web pages, the socket is not closed by you, but by the host
sending the page. The close notification is 'pushed', and so Marinetti
returns more than it was asked for on the next read, and crashes
Spectrum...

As to the TCPOnline variable. I have not checked it out, but I gather you
may have found a solution.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 11 Jan 2000 - 197 days till Y2KFest
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/

(2871, EWANNOP, GO COM A2P)

<<<<<
"""""
Yo Ewen,

Jeff Blakeney and I were discussing this in conference the other night.
The particular situation is when signing off of the pop mail server.  Code
looks like:

# itsover

close capturefile
set buffer off
send tcpdata %quit^M^J%
waitfor string %+OK%
waitfor string %^M%
set tcpactivesocket 1
close tcpsocket 1

After speaking to Jeff, I'm aware that in terms of proper form, I ought to
be checking to see if the socket responds to the sign off "quit" by closing
the socket before I try to close the socket manually, but my question now
is, in practice, does it really matter?

If so, I'll put in the code.  If not, I'd like to keep this as short as
possible :)

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 The Geek shall inherit the earth
 Delivered by Spectrum 2.2 and Crock O' Gold 3.0!

(2872, RSUENAGA, GO COM A2P)

>>>>>
"""""
You have no checks here for timeouts at the 'WaitFor' commands. You should
set the timeout and idletime values, then do an 'If Failed' check after
each command.

It is OK to try and close a socket that is already closed, as all you will
do is set the Failed flag. Equally, when you try to set tcpactivesocket, if
the socket is already closed, you should also get the Failed flag set.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 12 Jan 2000 - 196 days till Y2KFest
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/

(2873, EWANNOP, GO COM A2P)
[EOA]




[TLR]------------------------------
                 THE LAMP! REVIEWS |
-----------------------------------
THE LAMP REVIEWS
""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W, L.S.W.
         [thelamp@sheppyware.net]

        APPLEDESIGN: The Work of the Apple Industrial Design Group
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                    by Paul Kunkel
                    Photos by Rick English
                    287 pages
                    Published by Graphis Inc., New York, New York

     Whether you're a fan of Apple Computer, Inc. now, then, or just a fan
of the Apple II, you'll enjoy at least parts of this book, which could
possibly be titled _The History of Apple Computers In Pictures_.  That
wouldn't be 100% accurate, as the history here is more in the work of one
particular group at Apple rather than the entire company--the group
responsible for the designs of their computers and peripherals.

     Also note I said "Apple Computers" and not "Apple Computer, Inc."  The
beauty of this book is not so much in the descriptions of what happened in
the company (although the timeline is well-done, humorous, and insightful)
as much as it is in the beautiful photographs that fill a large section of
the book.  In it you will see photos of computers that were and never were.
There are concept designs which never saw the light of day as well as
prototype designs that came to be some of the most influential machines of
our time.

     Of particular interest to Apple II fans will be a number of different
mock-ups of the Apple //c (how different our lives could have been if they
had indeed produced it with an integrated LCD screen!), the Apple IIgs
keyboard (known in this book as the "Universe"), and a multitude of designs
leading to the original release of the Apple IIgs in 1986.

     Most intriguing for the Apple II fan is a feature on a project
referred to as "Contessa", which is touted as a follow up to the Apple
IIgs.  While it appears much the same as the Mark Twain Apple IIgs machines
that have been sighted in recent years, the dates for Contessa and Twain
don't match up.  Additionally, the front of the case is emblazoned "Apple
IIsi".

     While _AppleDesign_ does not fall into the category of Apple II
"must-reads", it certainly provides a fascinating viewpoint into what was,
what became, and what could have been for the Apple II.  If you are a
Macintosh fan, there are many other reasons to buy the book.  One way or
another, it's definitely worth at least a more-than-passing glance in the
bookstore.

[EOA]



[DRM]------------------------------
                         DREAMWARE |
-----------------------------------
The Apple IIgsX2
""""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson
   [lyle837@delphi.com]

First, let's define Dreamware:

     Dreamware is a combination of computer software and hardware that one
dreams would be nice to have and might even be possible to produce.  The
specifications might change many times before it becomes a reality.

     Extra IIgs CPUs can be acquired for a very reasonable price.

     So come on this imaginary tour with me.  Notice that there are two
cases, one on top of the other.  One each of monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
The power supply sits on the bottom shelf and supplies power to both units.
The disk drives are tucked into the cases.  Both units have an accelerator.

     The hard drive in unit 1 is regularly backed up to the hard drive in
unit 2 and vice versa.

     Multitasking with the IIgs!  In the lower left corner of the monitor
screen are two virtual lights and a radio button.  A mouse click on the
radio button switches the monitor display and the keyboard/mouse to the
other unit.

     Brousing the WWW... convert a graphic on one unit while reading text
on the other.

     Music while word processing.

     Print a large project while moving on to the next project.

     Chat online while downloading files.

     A printer "translator".  Send a print job from Print Shop GS from one
unit to the other.  The second unit receives instructions to print to an
Imagewriter II, translates it to instructions for a HP DeskJet, and sends
it to the printer.

     Well, you get the idea.  The next project after the IIgsX2 ?  How
about the IIgsX4 ?
[EOA]


[INN]------------------------------
                     EXTRA INNINGS |
-----------------------------------
About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
"""""""""""""""   the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
service (GO CUS 11).

This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes.  Apple II Forever!

     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All
       rights reserved.

     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
       thelamp@sheppyware.net

     * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on
       Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,
       http://lamp.sheppyware.net.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Opinions expressed herein are those of  the individual authors, and do  not
necessarily  represent  the  opinions   of  the  Delphi  Online   Services,
Syndicomm, Inc.,  Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson.   Forum  messages  are
reprinted verbatim and  are included  in this  publication with  permission
from  the  individual  authors.   Delphi Online Services,  Syndicomm, Inc.,
Ryan M.  Suenaga,  and Lyle Syverson  do  not  guarantee  the  accuracy  or
suitability of any  information included herein.  We reserve  the  right to
edit all letters and copy.

Material published  in  this  edition  may not  be  reprinted  without  the
expressed  written consent  of the  publisher.   Registered  computer  user
groups, not  for profit  publications ,  and other  interested parties  may
write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
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