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                       >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                 HARDWORKING HARDWARE: The SuperDrive Card
                  WEB SLINGING 101: Telnetting To Delphi
              AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS

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 The Lamp!             An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 1, No. 2
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 Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Internet Email........................................thelamp@delphi.com
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                             TABLE OF CONTENTS
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                             February 15, 1998


OPENING PITCH
     It May Be a MacWorld, But It's An Apple II Heart --------------- [OPN]

A FUNNY THING HAPPENED                                                [FOR]
     The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
     Miscellanea                                                      [MSC]
     Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
     Public Postings                                                  [PUB]
     Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]

A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
     Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]

HARDWORKING HARDWARE
     Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card ------------------------------ [HAR]

WEB SLINGING 101
     Telnetting To Delphi ------------------------------------------- [WEB]

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

                                [*] [*] [*]

READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will find
something like:

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].


         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
         :                                                       :
         :          Serenity is not freedom from the storm,      :
         :               but peace amid the storm.               :
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         :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GOLDFISCHE :::


[EOA]
[OPN]------------------------------
                     OPENING PITCH |
-----------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

             IT MAY BE A MACWORLD, BUT IT'S AN APPLE II HEART
             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     I needed a vacation.  I wasn't burnt out at work, but I was set on
high and ready to boil over, for sure.  So, I used a combination of
excuses: reasonable airfare prices, wanting to see my good friends the
Sheppys (aka Sarah and Eric Shepherd), and MacWorld Expo in San Francisco
to get myself on a plane from the islands to the bay area on a Monday night
in early January and into the San Francisco International Airport so I
could have some fun and get myself to cool down enough to be ready to go
back to the islands called Paradise and my personal adventure called work.

     I'd been to computer trade shows before, at home, and KansasFest, of
course, but never something as huge or as hyped as MacWorld Expo.  Booth
after booth after booth of software and hardware--and much of the hardware
was Apple II savvy as well--the latest and greatest in technology.  Fun it
was, yes indeed.

     Even more fun was to see some of our old Apple II friends there.
Besides myself and the Sheppys, Westcode Software--publisher of
_Pointless_, among other Apple II titles--was there, with erstwhile Beagle
Brother Rob Renstrom showing off their latest Mac software, and we ran into
Burger Bill Heineman, the legendary Apple II programmer, as well.

     But the most fun I had in the bay area wasn't at MacWorld; it was on
Friday night at Midwinter PizzaFest 1998.

     There I didn't see bunches of booths or the latest and greatest in
computing technology; I didn't get free buttons or free bags or enter a
contest to win a zillion dollars.  What I did see were four friends of
mine--Eric and Sarah Shepherd, Paul Parkhurst, and Joe Kohn--who knew me
primarily through the Apple II, and some warm pizza for a cool night.

     We laughed and talked and reminisced and planned for the future, and
after the pizza and soda was gone we kept talking on for hours and hours
until it was past midnight.

     I guess it just goes to show that sometimes it's not the latest and
greatest that makes a difference--it's the old reliable, what you've been
doing for years and years and years.

     Times are different and things have changed from the world of 1986.
As far as Apple Computer, Inc. is concerned, for instance, it's a MacWorld
now.

     But for those of us who were raised on an Apple II, that doesn't
matter.  Indeed, it is we who Think Different.  And Feel Different.

     Even in a MacWorld, I still have an Apple II Heart.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     First month's response to _The Lamp!_ has been overwhelmingly
positive, if underwhelmingly low in volume, which makes me wonder if
perhaps I haven't made it clear how to get in touch with us.

     To reach _The Lamp!_ by Internet email, simply send email to:

     thelamp@delphi.com

     and it will automagically be forwarded to me.  If you like to cruise
the Internet, there's even a mail link off of our Home Page at:

     http://www.sheppyware.ml.org/~rsuenaga

     If you are unable to send email or for some other reason want to
communicate with us through regular postal channels, you can send regular
mail to:

     Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.
     Editor, The Lamp!
     45-021 O'opuhue Place
     Kane'ohe, HI  96744

     However, don't expect a quick response going that route.  I may love
email, but I hate writing letters.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     Next Verse, Same As The First, A Little Bit Louder And A Little Bit
Worse Department: at one point in time, there was a _GenieLamp A2Pro_, and
both before and after that, we had sections in _GenieLamp A2_ (and for that
matter, _GEnieLamp A2_) covering the A2Pro RoundTable on Genie.  In this
second issue of _The Lamp!_, we can welcome (or, if you choose, welcome
back) A2Pro_DUCTIVITY, where we'll feature the A2Pro Geek Gang as they
prove to the world that the Apple II is alive and well.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     I had hoped after my editorial last month I wouldn't have to cover
this again, but it seems I do.

     This publication is only to be distributed via the _IIScribe_ Forum on
Delphi (GO CUS 11) for the first thirty days after its publication.  After
that, it will be placed on its web page at the URL listed above.  Any other
distribution without authorization is an infringement of copyright law.
This includes downloading it from Delphi and emailing it to a friend, or
putting it on a user group bulletin board, or posting it to Usenet.

     Several Apple II supporters are authorized to distribute _The Lamp!_
including:

     Shareware Solutions II
     Apple Blossom Publishing
     Juiced.GS
     Apple II Update
     Alltech Electronics

     If you are part of a legitimate Apple II business or supporting
organization such as a user group and are interested in distributing _The
Lamp!_ at no cost, please contact me.  Remember, every time someone
illegally distributes this publication, or any other Apple II product, we
come closer to the time when no more support exists for the Apple II series
of computers.  That would be a sad day indeed.

                                [*] [*] [*]

     Oh, and a quick reminder:

     KansasFest 1998 registration is happening NOW!  See the message in the
_A FUNNY THING HAPPENED_ section to find out how to be part of Apple II
history.

     Keep thinking KFest '98.

     And keep thinking Blatant Plug.

     I'll see you all in Kansas City in July.



Ryan
thelamp@delphi.com

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[EOA]
[OPN]------------------------------
     A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
-----------------------------------
Checking out A2 on Delphi
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

       * The Heat Is On

              * Miscellanea

                     * Rumor Mill

                            * Public Postings

                                        * Best Of The Best

                              THE HEAT IS ON
                              """"""""""""""

     [*] Off-Line Readers       ....... Even More Crock
     [*] Entertainment Software ....... Wolf!  Wolf!  Wolf!
     [*] The Apple II Legacy    ....... KansasFest Gets An Early Start
     [*] Telecommunications     ....... SIS Wish List



                                MISCELLANEA
                                """""""""""

APPLE'S APPLE II SOFTWARE, PART I   Does any body know if the software for
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   running the IIe Card in the Performas
is still available and if it's public domain?

I'm particularly needing the following.

LC 475 Running system 7.01

Looking for version 2.2, 32 Bit addressing, of IIe start up software for
the IIE Mac Card


Nick Heywood                                           _ --_|\
IIGS 'What in the world do you want to do today?'     /       \
Delivered By Spectrum 2.1, Crock O' Gold 2.1,        |   ___   |   about
Marinetti TCP/IP                                      \_/   \_/  <-- here
                          from an Apple IIGS.
                       (NICKH, 9857, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Try ftp://ftp.apple.com/dts/aii/lc.iiecard/
"""""
   [Or other places with a license to copy that] Like other system
software, it's copyright by Apple and not PD.

Nathan Mates
                       (NMATES, 9865, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   sorry for bringing bad news: There is *no* version of the IIe Setup
"""""   (the IIe card driving software) compatible with 32 bit mem
addressing. So, when you want to use the A2e card you can only use 8 MB mem
in your Mac :((. The latest version of the IIe Setup software is 2.2.1. The
card should work in all Mac with a LC pds slot type (i.e. even in a
Performa 630 - aside the Dos compatible type of them).

When you're trying that card, I'd be highly interested in exchanging
experiences especially on 2 points: the (virtual) SuperSerial card and the
(virtual) Workstation card! Will you?

Aside Nathan's suggestion where to find the card's software, you can also
try any ftp.support.apple.com server (directory: pub/software/usa/appleII
or something like that). To drive Prodos on the Mac properly you'd also
need or the older (sys 7.1) ProDos FileSystem extension, or PCExchange
(which comes with sys 7.5. and higher). Personally, I prefer the Prodos
FileSystem extension (which works fine also with sys 7.6.1) because I'm
using DOSMounter95 instead of PCEXchange.

Please share your experiences :)

Best regards, Ulrich

[ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.0 ]
                     (UHAUSMANN, 9870, GO COM A2 FOR)


APPLE'S APPLE II SOFTWARE, PART II   Some (but not all) of Apple's disks
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   are online, including the SCSI utils
at (sorry for real long URL, looks like Apple thinks nobody'd ever want to
type such a thing manually :)

ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/
US/Apple_II/Apple_II_Supplemental/Apple_II_SCSI_Utilities.bxy

Nathan
                       (NMATES, 9350, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Tony Ward, aka Conan The Librarian, has the final say on if this
"""""   can be in the library.  Maybe on his next pass he can say if having
it here is okay or not.

> Is there still a problem with Apple Corp on availability of those hard
> drive utility disks?

Nope.

> If they are available, does anyone know where I can ftp or download them
> from?  How about one of Apples own sites?

Okay.

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Apple_II/
Apple_II_Supplemental/Apple_II_SCSI_Utilities.bxy

All on one line :)

Why anyone needs this, though, I don't know.  Chinook SCSI Utils is
freeware, and available off of Alltech's home page (http://www.allelec.com)
and does more than Apple's 8 bit utils, including working with both the
Apple Rev. C and AHS cards.  If you have a GS, ADU does more, but that's
readily available :)

Ryan
Think KFest '98!
Delivered by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm
                      (RSUENAGA, 9353, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   I'll have to check our license, so give me a day or two to find it
"""""   (it's around here somewhere.) However, unless I'm mistaken it seems
that the Chinook utilities would be a better choice anyway.


 -----------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager
 [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19]
 --
                       (TONYW1, 9357, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   We are now licensed for everything that is available from the ftp
"""""   sites (and a few other things besides. :)

Gary R. Utter
                       (UTTER, 9374, GO COM A2 FOR)


IIGS TELECOMM SPEED FROM THE MASTERS   It may not be what he meant, but
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   running your serial connection at
57600 is not a good idea unless you have a super slim and super fast IIGS,
and even then I'd recommend against it.

While the IIGS can handle it physically, in most cases IIGS software cannot
handle data coming in that quickly.

Many folks run a 57600 port speed, but either direct connect to another box
and use a paced protocol like XMODEM, or have the modem run at 28.8.
Running 57600 port *AND* modem<-->modem speeds is simply asking for
trouble.

Regards,
 Richard
                     (RICHARD_B, 8934, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   To add to what Richard has said...
"""""
The golden rule is to set your baud rate to the maximum speed that your
modem can give. If that speed is not available, then use the next higher
speed. Never go higher than that, as you will only give yourself trouble!

The reason... Incoming data will stream in so fast that the interrupt
system may have problems dealing with it. This will be true, even if you
have actually made a connection at 2400 baud, as the data will arrive in
bursts at the computer-modem speed not the modem-host speed.

Now all this was OK when we only had 28.8K modems to consider. On an
accelerated IIgs, a computer-modem speed of 38400 baud worked fine. Now
that we have 56K modems, you may find that a computer-modem speed of 57600
baud is way over the edge. Whether it will work cleanly, without dropped
characters, will depend on what you Inits have loaded on your IIgs, what
speed your accelerator is running at, what comms program you are using,
whether AppleTalk is active or not, etc. etc.


 Ewen Wannop - Speccie
 Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP!
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
                      (EWANNOP, 8960, GO COM A2 FOR)


APPLEWORKS, RAMFAST, AND PRODOS 8   Ramfast users Beware! :)
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I had a problem using Appleworks 5.1 from finder in my system until I
disabled Ram5 volume.  Turns out, the actual culprit was far too many
devices per slot than P8 could ever handle.  De activating some non p8
useful partitions restored my Appleworks to it's previous glorious state.

Tim
                       (TIM_K, 8904, GO COM A2 FOR)


APPLEWORKS AND. . . GOATS?   I am working on (revamping) a data system for
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   my goat herd, which requires several
AppleWorks database files to be loaded at once.  I seem to recall that
someone came up with a utility to batch load several AppleWorks files.
Anyone know where I can get this, if it exists?

Thanks!

 - Don (IronTooth)

Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight!
                     (DZAHNISER, 8980, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Uhm, yes.
"""""
start >>

  No. File Name             Type Address      YYMMDD Bytes   Access Lib
----- ------------------------ - ------------ ------ ------- ------ ---

25306 BATCH14.BXY              X R.FISCHER7   950713   43520     77  40
      Desc: Batch Load for AW 4.0 to 5.1

Number: 25306  Name: BATCH14.BXY
Address: R.FISCHER7                Date: 950713
Approximate # of bytes: 43520
Number of Accesses: 77  Library: 40
Description:
This version of Batch Loader is like the last one except that it works
with Appleworks 4.0 to 5.1 so you don't have to worry about the change
in the dot commands that AW 5.1 brought in. Includes compiled versions
for AW 4.x and 5.x. Includes Batch Editor of course. Also has a version
that can be used as a task file (thus allowing you to "CALL" the macro
from any special macro set you may have without returning to the default
macros. Other than that, it works the same.
Packed with ShrinkIt 3.4.
Keywords: Batch Loader,Batch.Loader,Appleworks,Autoload,Macro,Timeout

<< end

I'll see what I can do about ulding it here, if it isn't already.

-- Mark Wade
                       (MSWADE, 8984, GO COM A2 FOR)


EVEN MORE APPLEWORKS   I'm wondering if anyone here has had experience,
""""""""""""""""""""   preferably technically, with bar Code readers.

The little I do know leads me to speculate that I can get Appleworks
Classic to recognize and work with a Bar Code reader.

The biggest problem I'm having is understanding how you generate the Bar
Codes themselves.

If someone puts their hand up for this, just be prepared for a series of
further question, if that's ok.

I am fairly clueless with this, but believe there is potential for this to
work.

Thanks.
Nick.

Oh P.S.  I am aware of ADB Bar Code Scanners and that's what I intend to be
dealing with.


Nick Heywood
                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,
                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,
                          Marinetti TCP/IP
                         from an Apple IIGS.
                       (NICKH, 9628, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   I purchased an Apple IIGS a few years ago that had been used with a
"""""   bar code reader. He used it to scan into DB MAster Professional.
Printing Bar codes might be a little trickier. Maybe Superfonts could do
it? Possibly use a utility to convert a font to Superfonts format would
work.
Brian Gillespie, Jaunt! Software
                       (JAUNT, 9638, GO COM A2 FOR)

<<<<<   The next step I need to get my thinking through is how the Bar
"""""   Code's are issued to a particular item?

For instance.......

An item is presented without a Bar Code and is also the first of it's kind
to be entered into a DataBase of items and so therefore there is no record
of it's existence.

How is the BarCode to be issued?

I have heard of Bar Coding standards/kinds, but how are they followed? and
what is their formula for issuing codes, assuming there is a formula and
it's not random?

The next thing I would like to know is a little about how scanner works,
Technically.  Does a scanner issue a carriage return once a code is read,
believe it or not this is an important point.

Regards
Nick Heywood

Sorry No SIG :)
                       (NICKH, 9648, GO COM A2 FOR)

<<<<<   As I mentioned to Nathan, I imagine I'll need to use SuperFonts to
"""""   print them, coupled with some macro's.

Pointless should be able to convert TT Font to a SuperFont format.  I
think, off memory, Superfonts handles Standard Fonts that might be used in
say an 8 bit program like PublishIt etc.  I think I had a fiddle with this
sort of thing a few years ago.

One thing that keeps recurring in my thoughts on this is the BubbleJet
Quality factor.  Can a BubbleJet, using Bit Mp Fonts, produce higher enough
quality for a BarCode Reader?


Nick Heywood
                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,
                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,
                          Marinetti TCP/IP
                         from an Apple IIGS.
                       (NICKH, 9651, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   I've located a couple of files in the Genie Library that may be
"""""   assistance on the topic of bar codes.

One is a bar code bitmap font, the other is an archive of AppleWorks files.
I will upload these on my next pass through. Hope they're helpful.

Genie's Library is awesome ... :-)

 Max Jones, Juiced.GS
 http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs
 Delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.2
                      (JUICEDGS, 9681, GO COM A2 FOR)


CONAN ON DELPHI DATABASE FILENAMES   I did notice a problem with
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   TODOLIST98.1.BXY. Notice anything odd
about that filename? It's got 16 characters, and that's one too many. I
don't mean to pick on Max (he uploaded this file) but I wanted to take this
opportunity to point out one of the rules of uploading files here:

Make sure you use ProDOS-legal filenames and make sure the ShrinkIt
filename matches the Binary II filename. Basically, this means keeping the
filenames to 15 alphanumeric characters or less, beginning with a letter,
and containing no more than one period (that last one is a Delphi
limitation.) If you have ShrinkIt add the Binary II for you, the filenames
will match. If you have your telecom program add it, just make sure you
type in the exact same name you used when you created the archive with
ShrinkIt, but use the .BXY suffix instead of .SHK.

It may seem a bit nit picky, but by sticking to a standard format we reduce
the chances of problems.

 - Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager
                       (TONYW1, 8956, GO COM A2 FOR)


SCREEN SHOTS, IIGS STYLE   While we're on Screen Shots etc........
""""""""""""""""""""""""
I had a Great little CDA that saved a SHR screen to a Dir you had to input
at the time of the save and it was great.  I used it to build the PMPfax
Stack.  I can't find the thing:(.  I do have backups of my boot partition
but not in the time I had that this CDA installed.  I have no idea where I
got this from either.  I fiddle with sec hand hard drives and went through
a stage of downloading everything I found, so it could've come from
anywhere.

Anybody familiar with this one or where you can get "Screenprint" as
mentioned previously?


                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,
                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,
                          Marinetti TCP/IP
                         from an Apple IIGS.
                       (NICKH, 9064, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   I use SHR Variable Timed Save all the time. In fact, the latest
"""""   version of it was updated by our own Tony Ward, A2 Database Poobah.

As someone else mentioned, the trick is finding where the screen is saved.
It should be in the last active folder. If you're shooting in Finder, it
should be in the root directory or System folder.

Do a system search using one of the Find File NDAs on "Screen.A". That
should tell you where the booger has landed.



 Max Jones, Juiced.GS
 (http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs)
 Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1
                      (JUICEDGS, 9068, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   And for that matter, I have a CDA that I wrote many years ago.  It
"""""   simply asks you for a filename (you can give a full pathname if you
wish) and saves the current SHR screen to disk.  I haven't really tested
it, but it has always worked fine for me.

If anybody is interested, I'm uploading it to the database.  Look for
SHRSAVER.BXY when it is released.

Later,
Aaron
                      (APULVER, 9071, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   ScreenPrint also uses a standard file dialog to let you pick the
"""""   name and place for the file. I suspect I got it from Genie, but I
didn't keep records.


  --
 Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Via Crock O' Gold v2.1
 Follow the Yellow Brick Road to KFest 10 - July 22-26, 1998
 cknoblo@novia.net
                      (CKNOBLO, 9074, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Unfortunately, that version (and the original) doesn't provide a
"""""   user selectable save path. It just uses the current Standard File
directory, which is usually the last one you worked with.

I have a completely new version just about finished. As soon as I get done
with the new Border Tracker I'll polish off SHR Snapshot and upload it
here. Among other things, it will let you select the save path and
filename.


 -----------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager
 [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19]
 --

 Anyone could do it with manuals...
                       (TONYW1, 9120, GO COM A2 FOR)


SUGGESTIONS FOR SIS   I mentioned this awhile ago, but just wanted to
"""""""""""""""""""   remind the good folks working on SIS of a rather
simple feature I'd like to see in the next version... automatic subject
fills on mailto links. Now, the reason I'd love to see this feature is
simple. To anyone who's ever been to my web page with Netscape or IE knows
I have a simple BBS running, which relies on e-mail instead of a fancy
script/applet. If SIS supports auto-subjects in e-mail, I can bring the BBS
to the SIS version of my site! And *that* would be cool. :)

Any chance? Thanks!

- Matt
                        (MPORTUNE, 9055, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   if/when I get around to a SIS upgrade, I'm sure that will be one of
"""""   the first set of features added. I have known about this limitation
of the mailto: URL shortly after SIS was released. The problem is that
there is no official documentation how the syntax is implemented. It is a
little hard adding the feature and making sure that something else won't
get broken or something else won't get supported since this is a
Netscape/Microsoft specific option.

I am very open hearing about other features that SIS needs that wasn't
implemented in version 1.0.

Geoff
                        (SISGEOFF, 9078, GO COM A2)

<<<<<   I have some more non-standard requests for you, Geoff. :) I was
"""""   just double-checking the HTML generated by my BBS program, and it
turns out there's another issue that SIS doesn't seem to support... a funky
"To:" header. Here's an example. When someone comes to the board and clicks
on "Post a new message" it's actually a mailto tag with a funky "To:"
header, like this...

href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]""

When the user clicks it, a mail window opens up, with the TO: field filled
in exactly like this:

"[Blue Monday:General]"

("Blue Monday" is the name of the board, "General" is the name of the
message base, and the rest is my address)

Let's say the user fills in "Test" as the subject, then proceeds to write
and send their message. After the message shows up on the board, and
somebody chooses to reply to it, the HTML for the "reply" mailto tag looks
like this:

href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]"?Subject=Re: Test"

And when the user clicks it, the mail window's TO: field (which is the same
as before) looks like:

"[Blue Monday:General]"

and the subject is already filled in as:

Re: Test

When I tried it under SIS, the TO: field was completely blank - not even
the standard address. Apparently it didn't like any of it. :)

I know those are some crazy mailto parameters, and I have no idea if
they're documented or not, but I *do* know that the BBS works great in
Netscape 3 & 4, as well as IE 3 & 4, so they must be following some rules
somewhere. (shocking, eh?)

Is it possible to make SIS work with it as well?

Feel free to look around the BBS for more code examples at my site,
http://www.telerama.com/~mportune - under Blue Monday. Or if you prefer to
use a non-frames browser, go straight to
http://www.telerama.com/~mportune/bbs/bbs.htm - that's the main entrance
page to the BBS.

I hope this is enough info, Geoff. Thanks for the hard work!

- Matt
                        (MPORTUNE, 9213, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   They didn't invent View Document Source for no reason. Yes, it
"""""   turns out from your example that SIS does not handle all variants
of the RFC822 email addresses and that is a real bug.

> href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]""

Heck, I don't even think the SIS.Email script handles all variants of valid
RFC822 email addresses either.

Geoff
                        (SISGEOFF, 9217, GO COM A2)


GRABBING A2 FILES OFF THE 'NET 101   What is a good strategy for
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   downloading files on the Internet that
are in the Apple II format? I have an IBM PC that is my Internet connection
and an Apple IIGS that is not Net-connected. Fortunately, I have the
coveted CrossWorks cable/software file-transfer package from SoftSpoken.
:-)

Can I download Apple II files with the above configuration? If I wanted to
download files in Apple II DOS 3.3 could the file be usable? Quite a few
games that were written for the Apple II were placed in DOS 3.3 format. In
my experience DOS 3.3 programs, especially games, only work on 5.25" 143K
floppy disk. Everytime I have tried to convert from 5.25" to 3.5" 800K I do
not have success.

Please send me some solutions to this challenge.

Thank you in advance,

Michael P. Owen
owenmp@hotmail.com

P.S. I have noticed something cool about my Apple IIGS and my IBM PC.
Although my Apple IIGS runs at 2.8 MHz and my IBM PC runs at over 166 MHz,
AppleWorks appears slightly faster than my Corel applications for my IBM.
This is yet another demonstration that the Apple II is NOT obsolete. :-)
                         (OWENMP, 9156, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Yes, you can download just fine via a PC and null modem them to the
"""""   Apple II fine if you remember a few simple rules. First, for any
.shk or .bxy file you must download in BINARY mode at every step. [You
don't, you'll corrupt the files and have to redo the xfers] All of the
legitimate Apple II software sites use .shk, .bxy or .bsq (and the illegal
ones may not, though they won't tell you that), and so you can download for
Shrinkit fine. Shrinkit can write DOS 3.3 5.25" disks fine, so you don't
have to worry about that. [And expect no help for pirated cr*p]

   This subject is covered in extensive detail in section 5 of the
comp.sys.apple2 FAQ at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/csa2.html I've
got a bunch of edits to make and after that, should have a delphi upload of
all my FAQs shortly.

Nathan Mates
                         (NMATES, 9157, GO COM A2)

<<<<<   Thank you very much! Again Delphi has rescued me from another
"""""   silicon and magnetic media crisis! :-)

Actually, I do have another question. IF I can ever finish my Web Page, I
will be posting quite a few word processing and spreadsheet files on the
site.  Currently, these documents are in AppleWorks 3.0 format. What would
be good formats to use when adding these files to the WWW for downloads? My
IBM PC has Corel WordPerfect Suite programs that apparently allow me to
save to a variety of formats. I want my Web Page to be accessible to IBM,
Mac, and especially Apple users! :-)

Thanks again,

Michael P. Owen
owenmp@hotmail.com
owenmp@ior.com
                         (OWENMP, 9181, GO COM A2)

>>>>>   Then the format to post to the WWW is either ascii text or html.
"""""   Going with the content first and ditching fluff like graphics is
the best way to be accessible to all.

Nathan Mates
                         (NMATES, 9185, GO COM A2)


DEALING WITH DELPHI BINARY EMAIL   Yes, it's me again...  Help!!!
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
::watches as everyone quickly presses their spacebar::   :)

I received several emails/files yesterday, and this is a small part of the
first segment:


This file is in BINARY format, created by YERRI at 15-JAN-1998 18:39:07.
4184 bytes.  Checksum = 5C2B XCRC = B781 CRC16 = 323B.
[*BINARY*128]
}~X}~``^PJFIF`^A^A^A`x`x``}~[`C`^P^K^L^N^L^J^P^N^M^N^R^Q^P^S^X(^Z^X^V^V^X
1#%%^](

.. and then it goes on for pages.

She is sending these using Win-D, so the usual encoding options (GSHK)
aren't possible for her. Before, when I was using Rainbow (please don't
throw ripe tomatoes, I needed an OLR {g}) it would somehow detect these
files, dump them into my workspace, and then download them from there.
Obviously, COG doesn't work that way, so instead of pictures, I get very
large text files.  :)

First, can these be converted back into something I can view, or if not, is
there something she can do on her end before resending them? I don't think
she has the option of encoding before sending... Wid-D just asks for a
filename and goes on from there.

Second, if not that, is there a way to tell Delphi to dump these into my
workspace so I can download them manually? If 'Bow can do it, I know there
must be a way for us to do it.  :)

Thanks.



 Hugs, Goldfische
 Conference Manager, New Age Forum (go rel new)
 Web: {<http://www.delphi.com/newage> Newage}

 Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Renew ...
 The Earth Belongs To Our Children

 Sent by Spectrum 2.1 & COG 2.1

---

 Why do we elect people and then become afraid of them?
                     (GOLDFISCHE, 9391, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   I don't recognize this being a "standard" header for 8-bit data.
"""""
> She is sending these using Win-D, so the usual encoding
> options (GSHK) aren't possible for her.

GSHK is not what I consider an encoding method--it is used for archiving of
files.

A relatively cross platform encoding standard is Binhex which is very
common on the Mac, but many mainstream email applications support it.
Spectrum can decode binhex once you save the message onto a disk on the
IIgs. GSCII can handle messages that are UUencoded and that is also
relatively cross platform (mainly UNIX though). Base64 is becoming the
industry standard for email since that is closely tied with typical MIME
attachments. There are several utilities which handle base64 for the IIgs
now--check out the Delphi library!

Geoff
                      (SISGEOFF, 9398, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   What you have here is Delphi Binary Mail - a proprietary scheme
"""""   that Delphi uses to exchange files between users.  There is no way
that I know of to directly use them on the Apple IIGS.  However -

You can manually convert these files as follows:

1) Before going into mail, set /length=10 (or some similar low number)

2) Enter mail (would probably be best to enter thru workspace)

3) Type 'SEARCH [*BINARY' (without the quotes) and press <Return>. If you
have a binary file waiting, you should get a message that contains the text
'PRESS RETURN'.  Otherwise, you will get 'NO MESSAGES'.

4) If you have binary mail, type the command 'EXTRACT <filename>' and press
<return>, where <filename> is the name that you want to have the file saved
under in workspace.  If you don't have binary mail, just process your mail
in the normal way for you.

5) Enter workspace and download the file.

The above is derived from the way that OLRight! checks for and processes
Delphi Binary mail as part of each mail session.  It takes a few more
seconds of online time, but downloads the files in the original format. It
shouldn't take much for an enterprising scripter to add this feature to COG
(he says in all ignorance ;^)

I adapted the above from a post by Tim Kellers, in which he described this
process.  THANKS, TIM!!!!!!

 - Don (IronTooth)

Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight!
                     (DZAHNISER, 9409, GO COM A2 FOR)



                                RUMOR MILL
                                """"""""""

FINALLY. . . WOLFENSTEIN FOR THE IIGS   Wolfenstein 3D for the Apple IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   -- COMING VALENTINE'S DAY, 1998.

What better way to celebrate the holiday of love and romance than by
blowing away a thousand Nazis?

The most anticipated game of recent Apple IIgs history will be available
for download at http://www.sheppyware.ml.org beginning February 14, 1998.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
                         (SHEPPY, 9750, GO COM A2)




SSII'S SIRIUS ABOUT APPLE II SUPPORT   Blatant Plug Department...
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Come February 15th, some lucky current subscriber to Shareware Solutions II
will become the proud owner of a brand new Sirius II RAM Card for the IIGS
with 8 Megs.

I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly thank Tony Diaz and Alltech
Electronics for their incredibly generous support of Shareware Solutions
II.

Note to Cindy Adams - I hereby officially rescind my nomination of Tony
Diaz as the Roastee at Kfest '98 ;-)

Joe
                      (JOE_KOHN, 9801, GO COM A2 FOR)



                              PUBLIC POSTINGS
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OFFICIAL KFEST '98 BLATANT PLUG #1
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KFest is back!  With some of its most affordable prices ever!

KFest '98 will again be held on the campus of Avila College in Kansas
City, Missouri. It will take place from July 22 - July 26, 1998. If you
register before April 15, 1998, the cost is only $265, which -includes
the use of a double room in the Avila College dorms -and- meals!  There
are also a limited number of single rooms available for $365.  (If you
wish to stay at one of the many hotels or motels near the college then
the cost is $215, but you would, of course, have to find and pay for
your own room and meals.)  But act now--prices go up on April 16, 1998.

Check-in will be on Wedensday from 1-4 pm, and check-out from 11 am - 1
pm on Sunday. Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and
Friday. Software and hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning,
with a vendor fair slated for Saturday afternoon.

Meals included in the registration price are Thursday breakfast through
Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. All children
under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.

++ Please Note++ Dinner on Wednesday and Saturday are NOT included this
year. Attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
restaurants near the Avila campus, or join the Kfest '98 group for their
annual treks to KC Masterpiece and Jess & Jim's Steak House.

 ***

KFest this year is being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc..  You can
send your completed registration forms to:

     KFest '98
     c/o Intrec Software
     3035 E. Topaz Circle
     Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423

 * Please make checks payable to: InTrec Software, Inc.

 ***

Credit Card registration is also available. Just call InTrec Software,
Inc. with your VISA, MasterCard, Discovery, or American Express number
at (602) 992-1345, Mon-Fri 8:00AM-5:00PM Mountain Standard Time.  If you
prefer, you can FAX your registration with credit card account number and
expiration date to: (602) 992-0232 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

If you prefer registering by Email, and are using a VISA, MasterCard,
Discovery, or American Express for payment, you can send the completed
registration form via InterNet Email to:  proterm@intrec.com


 ***

If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
find answers via the InterNet. Just send an email message to
kfest-help@trenco.gno.org, or visit the World Wide Web page at
http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.html

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                    KFest '98 Registration Form

Name:

Address:

City, State, Zip:

Phone  (h):                                 (w):

Email address:

Roommate preference (if any):

Do you prefer a smoker or non-smoker?

Howbout a collectible, soft and thrilling KFest '98 T-Shirt?
Yes I want One (Many)!!!  [ ]

T-shirts are $15.00 each and are available in Small, Medium, Large,
X-Large.


Please circle size(s)    Small     Medium    Large     X-Large

Check here [] for additional X's on your X-Large T-shirt and indicate size
needed:   _________

Send this completed registration form and fee to:

     KFest '98
     c/o Intrec Software
     3035 E. Topaz Circle
     Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423

 * Please make checks payable to:  InTrec Software


Credit Card registration is also available.   Just call InTrec Software,
Inc. with your VISA, MasterCard, Discovery, or American Express number at
(602) 992-1345, Mon-Fri 8:00AM-5:00PM Mountain Standard Time.  If you
prefer, you can FAX your registration with credit card account number and
expiration date to: (602) 992-0232 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

If you prefer registering by Email, and are using a VISA, MasterCard,
Discovery, or American Express for payment, you can send the completed
registration form via InterNet Email to:  proterm@intrec.com

For Credit Card registration please check:

[] Visa    [] MasterCard  [] Discovery   [] American Express

Please charge my  account number:  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Expiration: _ _ / _ _

                      (RSUENAGA, 9864, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Just in time to help get you excited about KFest 1998, another
"""""   Kfest '97 is ready for your viewing pleasure. (Information about
1998 registration will be ready soon.)

According to the official Kfest Webmaster, David Kerwood, "The site is
specifically tailored for _all_ browsers, e.g., it looks great in gui, and
also looks great with lynx, and all the downloadables are in gif format so
Apple II users can view the images. All the thumbnails are jpegs, but that
won't matter for the lynx users, since they're invisible to them anyway."

The official KFest webpage is:

        http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.html



The Big Cheese
(aka Cindy, A2.MOM)



 Cindy Adams  --  cindyadams@delphi.com
 Posted by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5
                     (CINDYADAMS, 9683, GO COM A2 FOR)

>>>>>   Actually, lynx can grab the thumbs if you really want to see them
"""""   (try the "*" command to turn on inline graphics link creation), but
there's really not much point. Either one would need to be downloaded and
viewed anyway, so you might as well get the full size pics.

I'm already counting the days 'til KFest 98!


 -----------------------------------------------------
 Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager
 [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19]
 --

 Fax me no questions and I'll fax you no lies.
                       (TONYW1, 9689, GO COM A2 FOR)


HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM SSII   Well, I made two New Year's resolution, and the
""""""""""""""""""""""""   first and most important one is to get Shareware
Solutions II back onto a timely release schedule. So, even though V3, #6 is
very, very, very late, I'm aiming to get V4, #1 out the door in record
time....meaning, in less than two months. That shouldn't be that hard,
considering all the leftover articles I have from V3, #6.

As a reminder, there will be a drawing for a brand new Sirius II 8 meg IIGS
RAM card on (note new date) February 15, 1998, and anyone whose
subscription is current as of that day will be eligible to win that RAM
card. So, get those renewals in.

And the other resolution...

I love to ski, and I didn't spend a single day in 1997 on the ski slopes.
So, I intend to go skiing in 1998!

Joe
                        (JOE_KOHN, 9061, GO COM A2)


SSII HOSTS MONDAY NIGHT CHAT   Thanks to Gina Saiken, Dan Krass and Ray
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Merlin...

Shareware Solutions II is pleased to announce that the first of many weekly
chats is scheduled to kickoff on Monday night, January 26, 1998. Although
these chats are being held under the auspices of Syndicomm, they will be
sponsored and hosted by Shareware Solutions II.

Unfortunately, I do not yet have the computer equipment here that will
allow me to "broadcast" the chat to Genie. It has been ordered, and once it
arrives, it may take me a little while to figure out exactly how to set it
up and use it.

So, it seems to me that we may as well get started here on Delphi, and then
once the computer hardware has arrived, we will have the dual system
Delphi/Genie chats on each successive Monday night.

Unless some earth shaking Apple II development happens in the next 10 days,
that first chat should be very informal. So, polish up those Apple II
related jokes ;-)

I hope to chat with ALL of you on January 26, 1998.

 Joe Kohn
 Publisher, Shareware Solutions II
                        (JOE_KOHN, 9458, GO COM A2)


GREAT NEWS FOR ANSITERM OWNERS!   Paul Parkhurst, the author of ANSITerm,
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the Apple IIgs specific telecommnications
program, has recently given me the authority to provide updates for all
registered owners.  That's right, even those of using ANSITerm 1.0 can be
updated to the latest version of ANSITerm, 2.13.  This will allow you to
start using Don Zahniser's OLRight! off line reader for Delphi.

In order to receive your update, please send a photocopy of the original
disk along with $5 for shipping and handling in North America, $8
elsewhere, to:

Ryan M. Suenaga
45-021 O'opuhue Place
Kane'ohe, HI  96744

Inquiries via email can be sent to:

thelamp@delphi.com

Many thanks to Paul for providing this opportunity for the ANSITerm
faithful.

Apple II Forever!

(This may be reproduced freely in user group newsletters, usenet, and
other online servicesprovided that the text of the message including this
statement is left unchanged)
                      (RSUENAGA, 9431, GO COM A2 FOR)


OLRIGHT! VERSION 3.0 FOR ANSITERM--A DELPHI OFFLINE READER
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
OLRight! v3.0 - An Off-Line Reader using ANSITerm on the Apple IIGS

Are you put into cold sweats when you work online in 'real time'?  Having
trouble remembering all those commands? Do you dread the bills for the time
you spend on-line?  Do you have ANSITerm v2.1x and an Apple IIGS?  If you
answered 'yes' to any of these questions (especially the last), OLRight!
may be for you!

OLRight! is an off-line reader and user interface for Delphi, built with
the powerful scripting capabilities of ANSITerm, the telecommunications
program from Parkhurst Micro Products.

The heart of OLRight! is a menu system created with the ANSI emulation
capabilities that are the showpiece of ANSITerm.  From the simple menu bar,
single key presses produce drop-down menus with a host of options:

o Access Delphi via SprintNet, Direct Dial, Telnet from an ISP, telnet from
Genie, or via any path that can be put into a custom script or auto-learn
macro. Included is an option to let you automatically log on and perform
on-line activities at a specific time.

o Define up to 32 Delphi Forums, 16 of which may be accessed in a single
session.  A Forum Chooser menu is used for selecting any Forum or
Database-related setup or off-line reading activity. Full support for
Custom Forums.

o Completely automated on-line sessions:
  - Logon/Logoff banners captured for off-line viewing.
  - Upload files to workspace.
  - Send mail.
  - Retrieve mail.
  - Download Delphi Binary Mail.
  - Forum message searches.
  - Send Forum messages.
  - Retrieve Forum messages.
  - Search Databases.
  - Submit (upload) files to Databases.
  - Download Database files.
  - Automatic execution of optional user script.
  - Automated logoff.

o On-Line (Manual) Activities:
  - Option to skip retrieving Mail
  - Between Forums - Skip next Forum, exit, or go to OLRight! menu.
  - Conference (Chat) - See Below.
  - Terminal Mode - Optional user script automatically executed.
  - Lynx.
  - Restart automated activities at any Forum.
  - Manual logoff.
  - Manual execution of user script(s).

o Menu access to virtually all of ANSITerm's built-in features, including:
  - View File utility.
  - Editor.
  - Scrollback.
  - File Utilities.

o Mail support:
  - Composing letters for sending, either as new mail or reply.
  - Sending Delphi Binary Mail (Send files to other Delphi users).
  - Address book with up to 32 names/addresses.
  - Mail reader menu with sender address and subject.
  - Navigate forward and backward through mail without returning to menu.
  - Print mail, either via editor or a fast text dump.
  - Archive letters to new file or append to existing archive files.
  - Reply to mail, either to original address or alternate address.
  - Automatic capture of subject for reply; subject can be edited.
  - Outgoing mail log - View status and Delete transmitted mail files.

o Forum Message Support:
  - Retrieve Forum topic list and view through menu selection.
  - Add new messages (Start a new thread).
  - Reply to a specific message number without reading it.
  - Option to suppress sending or retrieving messages by Forum.
  - Optional Forum-specific 'signatures' for all outgoing messages.
  - Forum message menu - Messages to you are marked.
  - Navigate through messages without returning to Forum menu.
  - Forward, backward, proportional movement through messages.
  - Progress through messages indicated as percentage.
  - Individual messages have addressee highlighted.
  - Reply to message author or other Delphi user.
  - Print individual messages.
  - Archive message to new file or append to existing archive files.
  - Search by Author, Addressee, Message Number range, Dates, Subject.
  - Set High Pointers to a message number or NEW for last 50.
  - Ad Hoc, freeform search capability.
  - Search/Read a single message number.

o Database Support:
  - Set up Searches - Narrow or Broaden search.
  - Set up Uploads - View pending upload queue and descriptions.
  - Set up Downloads.
  - Transfer via Xmodem, Ymodem, Ymodem-Batch, Zmodem, Kermit.
  - You can use different protocols for upload vs download.
  - View log of DB activities from OLRight! menu.

o Conference Support:
  - Menu selection for visiting conferences - Scripted conference entry.
  - Visit conference for any previously set up Forum.
  - Optional Forum-specific 'nickname' for conferences.
  - View capture log of conference session(s) - by Forum.

o Documentation:
  - Comprehensive documentation in a Teach file
  - On-line Help menu

OLRight! may be found in the A2 Forum Database, Telecommunications topic,
file name OLRight30.BXY.  Once downloaded and unpacked with GSHK or
Balloon, the Apple IIGS Installer is used to install scripts and data
folders. For help or further information, please reply to Message 3077 in
the A2 Forum.


 - Don (IronTooth)

Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts...
                       (DZAHNISER, 9192, GO COM A2)


BERNIE WOOFS IT UP   Hello Delphians!
""""""""""""""""""
I'd like to announce herewith, not without overboarding enthusiasm, a
mailing list for Bernie ][ The Rescue, our pet project. This list features
tips & tricks, news from the doghouse, and bandwidth for discussing Apple
II emulation, Bernie, or both.

The list is open and unmoderated - everyone can join in, whether you've
registered your copy or not. We're all really looking forward to meeting
you there and having some interesting communication.

To learn more about the list, please turn to

http://www.design.ncisc.org/~bernie/current/index.html

This site is an archive of all past messages. The first message gives you
an short introduction to how to subscribe, post, behave :-), and
unsubscribe.

BTW, this list is free (of course) and has been kindly donated by long-time
Apple II and Bernie user Joe Nowak.

See you there,
henrik
                       (GUDATH, 9388, GO COM A2 FOR)



                             BEST OF THE BEST
                             """"""""""""""""

9381 15-JAN 20:20 General Chatter
     RE: Lounge - General Chatter (Re: Msg 4)
     From: D_CUFF       To: ALL


I like the A2 area on Delphi.  (Why would I be paying for a Delphi account
otherwise? :-)  But would you grant me leave to talk about Genie for a
moment?  I'm not trying to persuade you to jump ships... honest!

There seems to be an assumption--often unspoken--that A2 on Genie is dying.
It just ain't true, folks.  (Yes, I am going to post something similar on
Genie. :-)

I didn't go near A2 on either Genie or Delphi for the first two weeks of
January.  Then I logged on and collected all the messages that had
accumulated in that period.

On Delphi, there were 330K of messages.  (That's 23.5K a day on average.)

On Genie, there were 280K of messages.  (20K a day.)

Whether you use Genie or Delphi or both is none of my business.  Argue all
you want for the superiority of either; I won't be listening. :-) Neither
am I here to promote Genie, particularly not over Delphi.  I just thought
I'd mention that things on Genie are still as healthy as they are here.
Maybe that means things need to improve here; I wouldn't know.

I just like to get these things straight. :-)

Doug C.



[EOA]
[A2P]------------------------------
                   A2_ProDUCTIVITY |
-----------------------------------
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]


APPLE PROCESSING A2 FILE TYPE REQUESTS?   BTW, did you know that Apple is
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   still including there own Apple
II File Type Request form on the Apple developer CDs (as of November/97)? I
was just browsing through the CDs at work and stumbled upon this file that
still listed Apple as the source for type assignments. I just found it
odd/amusing that that was still on there. I wonder what would happen if you
actually sent a request into that address. :-)

-- Michael
                       (SAR, 1221, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


NOW YOU SEE IT, NOW YOU DON'T   I have a problem with the cursor showing in
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the ANSI display in Spectrum that has been
reported to me a couple of times. Basically, the ANSI display turns the
cursor off at its Init, but does not turn it off again when it is
re-opened. This leaves the cursor showing droppings on the display.

I want to know where I can check to see if a cursor is currently active or
not. I can't find any suitable reference in the docs I have. If I can find
that byte, then I can check if the cursor is active before I close a
display, then if necessary make sure it is turned off when I re-open.

Richard could patch the ANSI display, but a more elegant solution is for
Spectrum to handle this...

Anybody know the answer?


 Ewen Wannop - Speccie
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>>>>>   There is indeed a flag in bank $E1, but I have no memory of where
"""""   it is. You might like to check out the _ShowCursor code and see
what its doing.

Regards,
 Richard
                    (RICHARD_B, 1226, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

<<<<<   I was just trying to do this the easy way by asking the 'experts'
"""""   here!

The flag is in the Quickdraw zero page, and you can get it this way:

    pha
    pha
    pea 0
    pea 4
    _GetWAP
    pla
    plx
    phd
    tcd
    ldx #$100
    lda $cc,x
    pld

This returns $0000 if the cursor is showing and $FFFF if it is hidden...


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>>>>>   Careful there! Don't count on absolute values. If the value is
"""""   negative, the cursor is hidden, and otherwise it is visible. In
practice, the value should never go above 0, but it can definitely go below
-1.

But otherwise, you've got it right!

-- Michael
                       (SAR, 1241, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

<<<<<   Thanks for the clarification. In essence I am using a non-zero test
"""""   to see if it is hidden, so I think I have covered what I need...


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>>>>>   It might be worth checking that assumption. I would assume that
"""""   what you're reading is the flag used by HideCursor/ShowCursor. If
so, negative values indicate a hidden cursor, and zero a visible one, with
the implication that positive values are accepted and also indicate a
visible cursor. I suspect you should be looking solely at the most
significant bit.

BTW, why won't HideCursor, ShowCursor and InitCursor do what you want?

Mike Westerfield
                    (BYTEWORKS, 1247, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

>>>>>   Thanks for that Mike... That makes sense.
"""""

The problem I had actually got solved from another direction. What I
wanted to know was if a display that Spectrum had no direct control
over, had turned the cursor off or not. That way I could make sure I did
not turn it on again when I restored control to it.
                     (EWANNOP, 1248, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


YET ANOTHER TEXTEDIT BUG?   I was investigating a problem with the Spectrum
"""""""""""""""""""""""""   Find/Replace routine and I think I have found
yet another problem with the TextEdit Tool.

If you do a large amount of Find/Replaces in the Editor, it either missed
out large chunks of the file on a $1700 boundary, or simply hung.

The same routine within Spectrum is used whether you are working on a
ScriptEditor Handle, or the displayed Editor window. Only when it is
working on the displayed Editor, that is a visible TextEdit Record in a
control, that the problem shows. If working on an invisible TextEdit Record
that is not a control, there is no problem.

The problem arises when either I use _TEReplace, or _TEClear with _TEInsert
with the Record being a control and a selection has already been made. If I
set the start and end of the selection to the same point, all is well. It
is deleting the selection, and then getting the new start point wrong on
exit!

So we can chalk up another bug in TextEdit!

BTW if anybody has a solution to this problem, I would love to know...

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>>>>>   Hmm... That could explain why EGOed would crash sometimes on
"""""   Find/Replaces that made a lot of changes. I thought it was just a
bug in EGOed, but since it seemed pretty solid otherwise, it wouldn't
surprise me if it turned out to be a TextEdit bug instead.

So how's that new super TextEdit replacement coming along? :-)

Michael
                       (SAR, 1278, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


8 BIT SNOOD GROUP SESSION?   Who wants to be part of a project to port a
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   SNOOD look-alike to the IIe? This is one of
the few games that I've really enjoyed and I think it would be neat to have
it available to the Apple II world.

I figure it could be written mostly in assembly using either the hi-res or
double hi-res screens. I can do shape tables for hi-res, but I've never
done any dhr stuff.

Anybody interested?

Charlie Hartley ... via ProTERM Mac and PTMM
                    (CKHARTLEY, 1277, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

>>>>>   Funny you should mention that, Charlie, I was just thinking to
"""""   myself that I'd love to do a GS-port of it once I get a little....
no quite a bit better, at toolbox programming.   I figured the basics have
to be included in Mike W.'s example brickout program. (Hmmm, but as I think
of it, that wasn't a toolbox program, was it?)

But I'm sure it could also be done in the 8-bit environment.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't know how to get near assembly, but I sure hope
you can find someone who can!



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>>>>>   Snood is the ultimate in Brick-out type games. You are armed with a
"""""   swivel cannon in the centre of the screen that fires 'Snoods'. You
have seven different types that appear more or less at random on your
cannon. The screen itself starts with various layouts of these Snoods. When
you fire a Snood, if it hits two or more of the same kind, they fall away.
The object is to clear them all from the screen. You can bounce of the side
walls to help your aim.

However every time you fire, a thermometer rises a notch. If the level
reaches the top, the whole screen shifts down one layer, and if any of the
Snoods touch the bottom, you die. However if any unsupported Snoods fall
away with others you have hit, the thermometer drops down a notch or two.
The strategy is therefore to clear the screen without the thermometer
getting to the top so you die.

There are five levels of play from Easy to Evil, each with its own screen.
There is also a Puzzle game that has 50 individual levels.

It is the best Brick-out game I have ever seen. My current high score at
Puzzle level is 190564, and Evil level is 22605. I usually run the Puzzle
level from the first screen, and can get to around level 26 without dying.
You can set it up to start anywhere, so I have been through all 50 levels,
but you don't get as high a score that way as the score multiplies with the
number of levels you can get through.

It would be a relatively simple game to program, so would be very easy for
someone to do on the //e or IIgs. After all, it is not much more advanced
in what it does than the old Space Invader programs...

So Cindy should manage to be able program it quite well... :)

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>>>>>   Hmmm, port of a game... sounds like fun.  I've done very little on
"""""   DHR programming, and honestly, I don't have the time to learn to
code for DHR. The only routines I've completely successfully were for two
DHR demos I wrote for Christmas, and the routines were SLOW. :)  Hi-res is
NO problem!

Fill me in on the details, and I'm game! :-)

Russ
                     (RUSSELL, 1339, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

>>>>>   Hmmm, and from what I've seen of Snood and GS programming, it seems
"""""   to me the 'logic' would be the easy part.  Maybe I'm missing
something important :)


> not to mention getting a hold of the screen layouts for all the levels.

Welllll, we don't have to be THAT perfect in our flattery, do we? Aren't
the snood levels sort of random anyway?  The levels I've played seem to be.




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>>>>>   The screens are random for the main five levels of the game, but
"""""   the 50 puzzle screens are the same every time. Once you have
registered your copy of Snood, you can actually design your own screens as
well.

The main problems in building the game would be working out the sprite
logic for animating the Snoods.

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>>>>>   I played Snood on the Mac... fun game.  As a programmer porting
"""""   this game over to the hi-res of the IIe or IIc, the major problems
would be the graphics. Hi-Res is limited to 280x192 and 6 distinct colors
of which half cannot reside next to the other half with having color
distortion.  It'll take some graphic talent.. :)  Plus the sounds will be
simple two-voice sounds, not digitized samples (too big to fit into 64k).

I'll work on some sample screens to see if I can actually fit that many
Snoods on the screen, etc...

I'll let you know..
Russ
                     (RUSSELL, 1380, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


SURVEY SAYS. . .   This was just passed along to me, and I don't think any
""""""""""""""""   else posted it here, sooooo:

Subject: Apple II Survey
Sent: 1/15/98 10:13 PM
Received: 1/15/98 11:23 PM
From: MacTreasures Announcement List,
MacTreasures-Announce@mail.pacific-
Reply-To: announce-MacTreasures@MacTreasures.com
To: MacTreasures-Announce@MacTreasures.com

We need your input regarding Apple II, IIe, gs software. If you DO NOT use
this type of software, but know of someone who does, PLEASE forward this
email on to them.

MacTreasures has been approached by a MAJOR software developer regarding
licensing titles they no longer produce for the Apple II, IIe, IIgs
education market. We would produce these titles for distribution. We know,
due to our queries, that there is a definite market for software for these
older CPUs. As you know we already carry such titles on our site. We are
now talking about titles that are NO LONGER being reproduced for the Apple
II, etc. market, but are being produced for the newer computers.

Please respond to unusual@mactreasures.com and place APPLE II SURVEY in the
subject. Your responses will help us in our decision process. PLEASE DO NOT
RESPOND JUST TO GIVE US AN ANSWER. WE NEED RESPONSES FROM APPLE II, IIe, gs
USERS AND POTENTIAL PURCHASERS OF THESE TITLES!

Thank you for your help! It is GREATLY appreciated.

MacTreasures
******************
Our question:

1. List software titles and company (if known), you would like to again
have available for Apple II's, etc.

2. Type of CPU (Apple II, IIe, gs)

**********************************************
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You certainly can post your answers here for others to see, but make sure
you get your answer to the company, they won't see them here. --HangTime
B-)>
                    (HANGTIME, 1314, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


XCMD PERFORMANCE   Documentation for writing XCMDs was deliberately not
""""""""""""""""   included with the release Spectrum. It is available on
request, but we need to know from anyone interested the project they are
considering, and what kind of projects they have already done.

This is to allow SevenHills to control and constrain released XCMDs to ones
that will work, will be useful, and are not already in a pipeline
somewhere.

In the early days of XCMDs, one or two XCMDs got through that caused havoc
with Spectrum. We do not want that to happen again.

If you could send me all the relevant details in email to
'ewannop@btinternet.com' or  'ewannop@delphi.com', I will see what we can
do. The two doc files are in plain text format.

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GSOFT CLOSES IN   Is GSBasic getting close to release, or have I missed an
"""""""""""""""   important announcement?

--
Peter Watson
-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
-- Impossible! ;-)
                   (PETERWATSON, 1300, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

>>>>>   It does keep getting closer. Work on HyperLogo has slowed it down,
"""""   but I do spend time on it.

It handles tools now, but only normal tools. I still have to finish coding
user tools and GS/OS calls, then the software will be at a very early alpha
stage. Once the manual is in draft form, I'll start advertising for beta
testers.

Mike Westerfield
                    (BYTEWORKS, 1307, GO COM A2PRO FOR)

>>>>>   For the sake of clarity, it's actually GSoft BASIC, FWIW.
"""""
And no, I hadn't even considered an upgrade from ORCA/Integer BASIC. They
are so completely unrelated that the idea never occurred to me. I'll
consider it, but I doubt if it will happen.

One thing I _have_ condsidered is licensing the source. Does anyone see the
need for a 65816 based BASIC for uses other than the Apple IIGS? (Besides
me, that is.)

Mike Westerfield
                    (BYTEWORKS, 1320, GO COM A2PRO FOR)


[EOA]
[HWH]------------------------------
              HARDWORKING HARDWARE |
-----------------------------------
THE SUPERDRIVE CARD
"""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

                            THE SUPERDRIVE CARD
                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Product Name:      Apple II 3.5 Drive Controller Card
                             (aka The SuperDrive Card)
          Distribution:      $59 plus shipping
                             Shreve Systems
                             1200 Marshall St.
                             Shreveport, LA 71101
                             phones: 318-424-7987 (technical support)
                                     800-227-3971 (orders only)
                                fax: 318-424-9771
          Requirements:      Apple //e or IIgs; any free slot other than
                             slot three; Apple IIgs System Software 5.0.4
                             or later or Apple II System Disk 3.2 or later;
                             Apple 3.5 Drive, UniDisk 3.5, or SuperDrive
                             or equivalent (preferred).




     Apple Computer, Inc. has always been an innovator, and while some
innovations were more successful than others, they continue striving to be
different from the rest of the computing world.

     One of the most successful innovations they incorporated into their
computers was the 3.5 inch floppy disk drive.  While they did not invent
it, they were the first to use it in a mainstream computer, the Macintosh.
And of course, after its debut on the Mac, it was only a matter of time
until it showed up on the Apple II.  The Apple II's first 3.5 inch floppy
disk drive incarnation, the UniDisk 3.5, was designed for use with the
Apple //e and the Apple //c.  It, like the Macintosh, offered storage of
800K on a single Double Sided Double Density (DSDD) floppy diskette.  With
the introduction of the Apple IIgs came the Apple 3.5 Drive, compatible
with the media and formatting of the earlier UniDisk 3.5, but faster and
compatible with both the IIgs and Macintosh.

     Of course, Apple's competitors in the Intel world didn't stand still,
and they had 3.5 inch floppy disk drives of their own, using a different
scheme for storing data on their diskettes.  Instead of Apple's Group Code
Recording (GCR) format, they used the Modified Frequency Modulation (MFM)
format, and their drives stored either 720k on those same DSDD floppies, or
twice as much (1.44 megabytes) on Double Sided High Density (DSHD)
floppies.

     Realizing that easy exchange of data was critical to their continued
success, Apple Computer, Inc. introduced what they called the "SuperDrive"
or "FDHD" (say "fudd-hudd") floppy drive, which could handle the 800K GCR
format as well as the 720K and 1.44 meg MFM format for their Macintosh line
of computers.  With appropriate software, these could handle reading and
writing MSDOS formatted disks as well as the Macintosh's native
Hierarchical File System (HFS) disks.

     Very late in the lifespan of the Apple II (at least as far as Apple
Computer, Inc. was concerned), the Apple II faithful were presented with
one of the last peripherals Apple Computer, Inc. would make for the Apple
II--called "The Apple II 3.5 Drive Controller Card", just as its
predecessor was, this card was actually the "SuperDrive Card."  When paired
with a SuperDrive floppy drive, it acted exactly like the old Apple 3.5
Drive--except it added the ability to use those 3.5 inch MFM formatted
floppies!  However, very few of these appeared to make it out of Apple's
factories into the hands of the public, and the SuperDrive Card seemed
destined to be one of those rare pieces of Apple II hardware that many had
heard of, few had seen, and virtually no one owned.

     But as it has so many times before, fate smiled upon the Apple II.
Somehow, somewhere, Shreve Systems has acquired a number of the SuperDrive
Cards and is selling them for $59 apiece!  When they were thought rare,
they often fetched over $100 per card.  Given this opportunity, I ordered
two for my own use, and to share with you here.

     The SuperDrive Card comes in typical Apple late-model packaging--brown
cardboard with black lettering.  It came with a rather sparse manual, a
disk of utilities, and the card itself.  To install it in my Apple IIgs, I
simply turned off power to the computer, found an appropriate free slot
(any but slot three should work), inserted the card, attached the header to
the IIgs's case, plugged in my SuperDrive equivalent drive (an Applied
Engineering High Density Drive), switched the setting in the Control Panel
for slot six to "Your Card", and booted up.

     In operation, it appeared nothing had changed, except that I could now
use MFM formatted floppies in my 3.5 disk drive!  With a fresh batch of
DSHD disks and System 6.0.1 installed with the HFS and MSDOS File System
Translators (FST's) and _MUG!_ (see Volume 1, Number 1's _MUG!_ review)
active, I quickly experimented with a number of diskettes, easily reading,
writing, and formatting Macintosh and IBM formatted diskettes, as well as
1.44 megabyte ProDOS diskettes.  Everything I could throw at it worked like
a champ!  My Apple IIgs was able to read files from and copy files onto a
MSDOS formatted disk that I formatted with the 486 I have next to it--the
MSDOS "dir" command also showed the files fine and dandy.  Same went for
reading and writing a Macintosh diskette--not a problem.  Formatting HFS
and ProDOS diskettes was a breeze, and formatting or writing to MSDOS
diskettes was almost as easy with the _MUG!_ package.  In the best Apple II
tradition, the SuperDrive Card worked its magic without fanfare--it simply
worked.

     The biggest problem that users may face with the SuperDrive Card is
finding a drive to use it with.  I happened to have picked up an Applied
Engineering floppy drive that was SuperDrive compatible a few months before
at a user group swap meet--these are out of production, as are the
Apple-branded SuperDrives.  It's quite possible to take an Apple SuperDrive
mechanism and put it into the typical IIgs's 3.5 Drive enclosure with
relative ease, but this may be cost prohibitive.  Power users who have long
had all of their slots filled may have a difficult time finding a free slot
to place the card into.  There have also been reports of difficulty dealing
with 720K diskettes with this combination--I had no problems with these,
and I come across these diskettes so infrequently now this may not be much
of a concern.  And the combined price of a SuperDrive and SuperDrive Card
may be prohibitive compared to the alternative methods to achieve
compatibility with MFM diskettes--the BlueDisk Card and generic Intel-style
3.5 inch floppy drive from //SHH Systeme in Germany or the Floptical Drives
formerly marketed by Tulin Technology.  The SuperDrive Card will certainly
drive conventional Apple 3.5 Drives that use 800K GCR formatted diskettes,
but it is only at its best with a true SuperDrive.

     Still, the SuperDrive Card is a real find.  In typical Apple II style,
it does its job with function and little fanfare--it plain works, and works
well.  If you need to use 3.5 inch diskettes from MSDOS or Windows
machines, and you have or can easily locate an appropriate 3.5 inch disk
drive mechanism, the SuperDrive Card may well be the answer you have been
waiting for.  Thank you, Shreve Systems.


[EOA]
[WEB]------------------------------
                  WEB SLINGING 101 |
-----------------------------------
Variations On A Theme
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
                    [thelamp@delphi.com]

                    Telnet And The Delphi Content Plan
                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     One of the most useful things you can do with an Internet account is
to telnet.  Telnet allows you to communicate with a remote host just as if
you were directly linked to them.  Several online services, including
Delphi, permit telnet access.  In fact, Delphi's Content Plan allows
unlimited access to Delphi via telnet for $35 a year.  If you combine that
with an account on an Internet Service Provider that allows unlimited
access, you have a very economical way to get onto Delphi.

     Once you have your Content account set up with Delphi, you can attempt
to telnet into Delphi many ways.  If you have a standard shell account on
an Internet Service Provider, you can easily use the telnet command to get
onto Delphi.  Here's an example.

     From the main prompt of an Internet Service Provider, which looks
like:

[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------

[rsuenaga@butch rsuenaga]$

[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------

     I then enter the telnet command by typing in:

telnet delphi.com

     and press return.  I then get the following:

[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------


Trying 199.93.4.67...
Connected to delphi.com
Escape character is ^].


Username:

[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------

     Let's take a look at this.  Notice that the first thing it says is:

Trying 199.93.4.67...

     The numbers 199.93.4.67 are an Internet Protocol Address, commonly
referred to as an IP Address.  Every Internet site has this numeric IP
Address.  If you'd like, you can telnet using this address rather than the
alphanumeric domain name (delphi.com).  Those of you who use _Marinetti_ on
the IIgs are surely familiar with this.  Simply substitute one for the
other.  In this case, instead of typing:

telnet delphi.com

     you can type:

telnet 199.93.4.67

     and get the same results.

     At this point, to log onto Delphi, simply enter your username, as in
the following example:

[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------


Trying 199.93.4.67...
Connected to delphi.com
Escape character is ^].


Username: RSUENAGA

[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------

     and press return.  You will then get the

Password:

     prompt.  To compete the sign in, type in your password and press
return.

[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------


Trying 199.93.4.67...
Connected to delphi.com
Escape character is ^].


Username: RSUENAGA
Password: samplepassword

[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------

     and then you will get the initial Delphi logon screen:

[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------

Hello RSUENAGA

Welcome to DELPHI
Copyright (c) 1995,1996,1997,1998
Delphi Internet Services


Logon at   : 10-JAN-1998 17:56:02
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[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------

     Several Apple II users who telnet in like this have problems
transferring files from the Database via the XModem, YModem, or ZModem
protocol.  That is likely due to not all ISP's supporting Telnet equally.
Many times, they only support 7-bit telnet, which is not capable of
handling these types of protocols.  If you are having downloading problems,
here are some things to try.

     Instead of simply typing:

telnet delphi.com

     you can try one of the following variations:

telnet -8 -E delphi.com

     -or-

telnet -8 -E -L delphi.com

     -or-

telnet delphi.com,T

     If those don't work for you, try just entering:

telnet

     then pressing return.  You will likely get a prompt that looks like
this:

telnet>

     at this prompt, try entering

toggle binary

     and pressing return.  Hopefully it will say:

Negotiating binary mode with remote host.

     and give you another telnet> prompt.  There you can enter:

open delphi.com

     and hit return again.  Then you can log in as above.

     If none of these allow you to do file transfers, you may be stuck
using the Kermit protocol to transfer files.  Several Apple II telecomm
programs support Kermit (the latest versions of _ANSITerm_, _Spectrum_, and
_ProTERM_ all support Kermit).  While it is a slow protocol in practice, it
is very reliable, and will let you transfer files where you otherwise would
not be able to.

     There are several other options for telnetting into Delphi.  If you
have _Marinetti_ up and running, you can telnet in with the simple _Telnet_
application Richard Bennett includes with Marinetti or with _Spectrum 2.1_
and the _TopCat_ XCMD.  If you access under TCP/IP with another computer,
you can use a telnet client--such as _ProTERM Mac_ on the Macintosh.  Or
you can try to use your World Wide Web browser to telnet.  If you enter:

telnet://delphi.com

with, for instance, _Microsoft Internet Explorer_ or _Netscape Navigator_
it will try to pull up a "helper application" to telnet to Delphi.
Unfortunately, the _Spectrum Internet Suite_ does not support this
telnet:// tag, but _Lynx_ does.  Not all ISP's installations of _Lynx_ will
support it, of course, but many do.  One of the more interesting uses of
this for me is when I visit the local public libraries, which allow access
to _Lynx_ via their online catalogs.  If I feel like taking a break from
reading, I simply go to the card catalog and check my email or chat with
friends!

     This small primer will assist you in getting going with telnetting to
Delphi on your Apple II or other computer.  We will continue to look at
different ways to use the Internet to get the most out of your Apple II
computer.


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         :       I tried OS/2 once, but I didn't inhale.         :
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