[HEA]
    _____________________   ___                                   _
    |___   ______________| |   |                                 | |
        |  | _             |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |   ____ _   _ _   _   ______     | |
        |  || |            |   |  / __ \ | | / \_/ \  | ___ \    | |
        |  || |__   ____   |   | / /  \  | |  /\ /\ \ | |  \ \   | |
        |  ||  _ \ |  _ \  |   | \ \__/  | | | |_|| | | |__/ /   | |
        |  || | | || |_||  |   |  \___/|_| |_|    |_| | ____/    |_|
        |  || | | || |__   |   |____________________  | |         _
        |__||_| |_|\____/  |________________________| | |        |_|
                                                      | |
         Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi        | |
                                                      |_|

-----------------------------------


                       >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

             AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
           "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"

 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 The Lamp!            An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 3, No. 10
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
 Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
 Internet Mail, Editor..............................lyle837@FoxValley.net
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

                            TABLE OF CONTENTS
                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            October 15,  2000

HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER
     Working in Harmony-----------------------------------------------[OPN]

A2 DISTILLATIONS
     A2Central Licensed to Distribute A2 System Software--------------[ACL]
     Donations for A2Central.com Auctions-----------------------------[DFA]
     Silvern Castle v5.1 Available in Database------------------------[SCF]
     Jeff Fink Releases His Software as Freeware----------------------[JFR]
     Silvern Castle v5.2 Coming---------------------------------------[SCC]
     Byte Works Collection CD Will be Produced------------------------[BWC]
     Shipwrecked! - A IIgs Game - Available---------------------------[SWA]
     Genie Out of Bottle!  ?------------------------------------------[OOB]
     Spectrum Via Shareware Solutions II Delayed but Coming-----------[SVS]
     October 2000 Juiced.GS is on the Way-----------------------------[JGS]
     Power on the IIgs------------------------------------------------[PGS]
     Lost Classics Project Forges Ahead-------------------------------[LCP]
     LANceGS Support Area---------------------------------------------[LSA]
     LANceGS Price Lowered--------------------------------------------[LPL]
     LANceGS - Sorting it Out 1---------------------------------------[SOA]
     LANceGS - Sorting it Out 2---------------------------------------[SOB]
     New Driver For the LANceGS CARD----------------------------------[NDL]
     Brutal Deluxe Online With New Web Site---------------------------[BDO]
     Problems With Super Drive----------------------------------------[PSD]
     Which Printer for Printing Labels With the Apple II?-------------[WPL]

A2P DISTILLATIONS
     Bugs in Basic System v1.5 ?--------------------------------------[BBS]

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
     No Slot Clock operation / installation---------------------------[NSC]
     C For The 8 Bit Apple II-----------------------------------------[CAT]
     An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]

KFEST 2001
     Keep it in Mind--------------------------------------------------[KFT]

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

                                [*] [*] [*]

READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will find
something like:

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].



[OPN]-------------------------------
         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
------------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>

                            Working in Harmony
                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     Recently, when looking down From High Above The Rock River, you could
watch the Regatta sponsored by the local Rowing Club.  Teams came from
several states to compete.  It is fascinating to watch a team of eight
rowers coordinated by their leader striving for perfection of technique so
as win the race they participating in.

     So it is with the various people working to produce hardware and
software for our Apple II computers.  People working together can
accomplish so much more than a bunch of people working at odds with each
other.

[EOA]





ASCII ART BEGINS
_________  _                     _                                      _
|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |
   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |
   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |
   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |
   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |
   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|
   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _
   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|
                                                            | |
                                                            | |
                                                            |_|

ASCII ART ENDS


[EOA]




------------------------------------
      DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |
------------------------------------

by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[ACL]
A2Central LICENSED TO DISTRIBUTE A2 SYSTEM SOFTWARE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
A2Central.com is pleased to announce that it has been licensed by Apple
Computer to distribute Apple II system software and select other software.
Additionally, we have been authorized to rearchive the files in formats
actually useful to Apple II users.

So, effective immediately, A2Central.com members can now download Apple II
system software, utilities, and HyperCard IIgs in ShrinkIt disk archive
format at <http://www.a2central.com/stuff/applesoftware>.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(SHEPPY, 33457, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
How does one become a member of A2Central.com ?

Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
Editor, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi

(LYLE837, 33464, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
Just visit the site and make good use of its contents. Participate in the
polls, give feedback and make suggestions. People that have knowledge about
stuff are urged to submit articles for us to host for the Apple II
community's benefit.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(SHEPPY, 33465, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[DFA]
DONATIONS FOR A2Central.com AUCTIONS
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
There will eventually be a classifieds section on A2Central.com, but right
now we're focusing on other stuff.

I do accept donations for stuff for A2Central.com to sell on eBay; if
people want to offer stuff up, send me email.

I prefer that people think of it as a guilt-free way to get rid of
something instead of throwing it away, since we're not a nonprofit
organization or charity. The purpose to our auctions is twofold:

1. Some people have stuff they want to get rid of, but don't want to throw
   it away and don't have time to deal with selling it.

2. A2Central.com needs money and exposure.

Right now, eBay is a pretty painless way for A2Central.com to handle this
stuff; so far it's working quite well.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(SHEPPY, 33230, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SCF]
SILVERN CASTLE v5.1 AVAILABLE IN DATABASE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
 Name: SCUPD51.BXY
 Date: 25-SEP-2000 15:20
   By: HKATZ
 Size: 212352

Silvern Castle, the popular role-playing game for 8-bit Apple II computers,
has been updated to version 5.1 and has been reclassified as freeware by
the Author, Jeff Fink.

New stuff in v5.1:

- You can now scroll through the store item list much faster with the new
Open-Apple-Jump command. Pressing OA and a number key (1-9) now goes
through the list in large increments (OA-1 jumps to the beginning, OA-5
jumps to the middle, etc). Depending on how many items the store has in
stock, this should get you close enough to the item you're looking for so
that only a few additional F)wd or B)kwd keypresses will be necessary.
Thanks to Bruce Baker for suggesting this idea.

- Activating a teleporter square is now more user friendly. It now clears
the maze viewport, beeps, and displays "ZOOM!" immediately before
teleporting the party.

For more information regarding changes in the program, see the
READ.ME.FIRST file found in the archive.

(TONYW1, 33373, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[JFR]
JEFF FINK RELEASES HIS SOFTWARE AS FREEWARE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Due to low shareware payments I have decided to release all my software as
freeware.

The announcement about Silvern Castle's freeware status can be found
elsewhere in this forum.

My other title, Harvest Collection #1 consisting of 4 Applesoft games-Apple
Poker, Demon Ball, Rice Farmer, and Asteroid Miner-is also now reclassified
as freeware. Alas, I only got 1 shareware payment.

By reclassifying everything as freeware, I still retain the copyright, and
the remaining A2er's up there can enjoy my software free and legal. And I
don't have to worry about the low numbers anymore. The price of belonging
to the A2 community... :)

II Infinitum,

Jeff

(FINKSTERJ, 33428, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SCC]
SILVERN CASTLE v5.2 COMING
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Announcement:

In the next few weeks I will release Silvern Castle v5.2. This will consist
mostly of a new extra's menu item: Tome of Arcana, which will include help,
hints, and reviews that appeared in the Delphi A2 Entertainment Forum.

I'm still waiting for permission from a few of you! If you are on this
list, or you can help locate the following people, please email me at:
{<mailto:finkjsc@yahoo.com> finkjsc@yahoo.com}

Jeff Blakeney
Kevin Sherlock
John Shaver
Richard Pirong

Thanks,

Jeff Fink

(FINKSTERJ, 33466, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[BWC]
BYTE WORKS COLLECTION CD WILL BE PRODUCED
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I'd like to thank all of your for your feedback on a possible Byte Works
collection CD.

The short version is that, based on the feedback, I've decided to do one.
It's underway now.

Please take a look at the following and see if there is anything obvious I
can do better.

There will actually be two CDs, priced at $95 each. The first will have
software and manuals. The second will have source code for everything on
the first CD that didn't already include source code. Both CDs will be CD-R
with printed  surfaces, shipped in jewel cases with an insert that points
out how to get started.

The source code CD will include a license limiting use to private changes
unless written permission is obtained to distribute the changes. My intent
is to try to allow people to modify and change for the GS, but retain the
right to be compensated for any use off of the Apple IIGS.

The CDs will be in Mac HFS format. I'm toying with the idea of a hybrid CD,
but I don't know how well that would work.

The source CD will contain both HFS files that are directly accessible and
a disk image created with Disk Copy 6 that contains the same source code on
one or more 32M ProDOS format volumes suitable for mounting with Gus or
Bernie.

The software CD will contain all of the software in three formats:

1. Disk Copy 6 images of the original distribution disks.

2. An HFS partition with all of the software preinstalled. In theory, this
   should work from an Apple IIGS.

3. One or more 32M ProDOS format Disk Copy 6 images with the same software
   preinstalled. These will be suitable for copying and mounting with Gus
   or Bernie.

The documentation will be included in three formats: Word, PDF and RTF. I
do not have, nor do I expect to write, any software that would allow the
documentation to be read directly on an Apple IIGS, but if anyone has
access to such software and would grant me permission to include it, I
would be happy to do so.

I also intend to include several "bonus" selections. These are either
unfinished programs or programs I never sold. All would come with source.
Possibilities include:

1. Small C, the only program that is out of print.
2. A planet finder program that duplicates the Sky & Telescope centerfold.
3. A draw program that was complete except for disk I/O, printing and
   libraries.
4. A Pilot interpreter.

Finally, I'll include all of the beta updates that I've done that have not
been released.

Mike Westerfield

(BYTEWORKS, 33478, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
I don't think the Byte Works CD will be full. :) If anyone would like to
piggyback on the CD to get distribution, please get in touch. I retain
right to edit and select, but I'm open to public domain, freeware,
shareware, or commercial demo software, as long as you can speak for the
copyright holder.

I'm _specifically_ interested in:

Bernie

That other UNIX-like shell; what was it's name?

Any programming languages, especially LISP, Forth, and anything that runs
from the ORCA shell.

Anything with ORCA source code.

If you represent any of these products or can put me in touch with the
people who do, please let me know if something can be worked out. Remember,
shareware and commercial demos are fine; I'd love to point business back to
you!

Mike Westerfield

(BYTEWORKS, 33479, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> That other UNIX-like shell; what was it's name?

GNO/Me.

BTW, Mike, thanks for doing this CD project. I'll be one of the first in
line.

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution

(RSUENAGA, 33486, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SWA]
SHIPWRECKED! - A IIgs GAME - AVAILABLE
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hi all, just wanted to let you know that my first GS game is available for
download at
 {<http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/shipwrecked.html>
http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/shipwrecked.html}

I have uploaded to Trenco also, so that should become available soon.

It is a HypercardGS adventure game.

Have fun, and let me know what you think.

Kim Howe
 {<mailto:khowe@omninet.net.au> khowe@omninet.net.au}

(KHOWE1, 33505, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[OOB]
GENIE OUT OF BOTTLE!  ?
"""""""""""""""""""""""
The best laid plans, and all that...

I'd intended to hire costumed phallanxes of trumpeteers to assist me in
making an announcement. I'd thought of bringing dancing girls to a Monday
night chat, and passing out virtual glasses of champagne. I've been in
touch with the Russian Space Agency to inquire about Mir displaying a
flashing billboard from outer space. Heck; I even contacted the Gore/Bush
campaign offices to see if I could get one of them to make the announcement
during an upcoming Presidential debate.

But, alas, the wind has been taken out of my sails. My bubble has been
burst. The high drama planned for an 'earth shaking announcement' has been
subverted.

Gosh! Can't anyone keep a secret any more?

Well, once the genie is out of the bottle, it's impossible to stuff him
back in there. And, believe me, I tried.

So, with zero fanfare, no dancing girls, no virtual champagne, no rockets,
no presidential pronouncements...

http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/iigs/sp.htm

However...don't believe everything you read on the net. What you read there
will come true in a week or two, but it isn't true today. In other words, I
was caught completely off-guard by the slightly premature announcement and
a few more details need to be worked out.

So, as "they" say on TV...stay tuned for details. Keep in mind, however,
that just like fine wine, no software will ship before its time.

 Joe Kohn
 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko

(JOE_KOHN, 33357, GO COM A2)
[EOA}


[SVS]
SPECTRUM VIA SHAREWARE SOLUTIONS II DELAYED BUT COMING
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Well, if the truth be told, the delay in getting Spectrum ready is that I
do not yet have the program manuals that My eSource has supposedly already
sent.

Obviously, not having manuals only concerns those who are purchasing
Spectrum for the first time.

So, I think Ewen and I will have to put our heads together, and come up
with costs for updates, and for the various bundles that will eventually
become available.

As it is, we have plans to make Spectrum available on 3.5" and CD-ROM, and
we also intend to have a bundle that includes Spectrum and Spectrum
Automated Mailer. Since room on CD-ROM is almost unlimited, I presume we'll
even include disk images for the emulator users.

Oh, and before I forget, I have yet another surprise. Shareware Solutions
II will also be distributing Spectrum Internet Suite (SIS)! So, we'll
probably have a CD with Spectrum, SAM and SIS! Hmmm...and maybe even a
bundle that includes NiftySpell, as that works with Spectrum just like it
was built-in.

I just can't predict on what date all this will become available, but it
shouldn't be too much longer.

One last thing: WOW! Sorry; I just had to say that ;-)

 Joe Kohn
 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko

(JOE_KOHN, 33467, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SMC]
SUGGESTIONS... USING THE SPECTRUM - MARINETTI COMBO
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
This was posted on the KFest list by Howard:

> Looks like I'm going to have to get Spectrum once Joe's finally set up
> with it. The Marinetti Telnet program either freezes on me also, or
> connects briefly and then drops me back to the mini-menu. I can connect
> out to other sites, but for no more than maybe 15 minutes tops.

The KFest list was not really the place for us to discuss these things, as
a more suitable home is over here on Delphi. So I have taken Ryan's advice
and moved my answer over here...

Once you have a TCP/IP connection made with Marinetti, you should not be
getting freezes or drop outs, unless the host you are connecting to is
flaky, the net is very busy and so timeouts are happening, or you have been
hit by a rare Marinetti bug.

In my experience, the remaining small bugs in Marinetti seem to hit memory
use more than anything else. If memory is tight, things can get worse. Both
Spectrum and Marinetti like lots of memory. I would not recommend using the
combination in anything less than 4Mb. If you only have 4Mb of RAM, then do
not set up a RAM disk. It just eats up too much memory.

As many of the newer programs for the IIgs can use a lot of memory, it also
pays to reduce your Inits and CDevs to the basic minimum that you need. It
may look nice having several rows of icons showing up at boot time, but
each icon is grabbing a slice of memory, and keeps it even if it is not
being used. If any memory trashing then happens while Marinetti is running,
this only makes things worse.

So look carefully at all those Inits and CDevs. Ask yourself if you really
use them. If not, disable them and give the applications a chance to work
properly. Sheppy's Shifty List does a great job at taming those you don't
use regularly.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.4 & Crock O' Gold 3.3
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
 Home Pages: http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/

(EWANNOP, 33644, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[JGS]
OCTOBER 2000 Juiced.GS IS ON THE WAY
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
GreetinGS,

The October 2000 issue of Juiced.GS (V5I3) went into the mail on Thursday
and Friday. Subscribers should begin receiving their copies in a matter
days. (Some may have actually received copies on Saturday!)

I'll be along in a couple of days with a detailed index.

 Max Jones
 Juiced.GS
 http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs

(JUICEDGS, 33589, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[JFT]
CONTENTS OF Juiced.GS, Vol. 5, Issue 3
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Announcing ...

===== Juiced.GS, Volume 5, Issue 3 =====

The October 2000 edition of Juiced.GS, the Apple II world's premier
IIGS-specific magazine, was delivered to 214 subscribers in 45 states and
numerous points around the globe.

Here's what you'll find in this 20-page issue:

============

FEATURES

Cover Story: KFest 2000 -- In-depth coverage of the biggest Apple II event
of the year ... We give you day-by-day accounts of all the KFest
activities, and focus in on the major news developments such as the
announcement of the LANceGS Ethernet card, the coalition of users uniting
to bring Apple II users a new home on the Web, and new twists in technology
that allowed enthusiasts from around the world to watch live Webcasts from
Kansas City. We also post the results of the GShisen World Championship
competition, and let you know the status of the products unveiled during
the conference. We even share tidbits about after-hours activities.

The Vitual GS: Blockbuster Bernie ... Ryan Suenaga, our man on the
emulation front, expands on the KFest 2000 news about the impending release
of Bernie ][ The Rescue v3.0.

COLUMNS

My Home Page: Focused on the future ... The intrepid editor shares his
delight that KFest developments have Apple II users looking to the future
rather the past. He also announces that Juiced.GS is gearing up to publish
once again in 2001.

II Be Named Later: Our exhausted columnist, world-traveler Ryan Suenaga,
ponders how he can be so dead tired when the Apple II is bursting with new
life and boundless energy. Maybe he just needs more sleep.

DEPARTMENTS

Shareware Spotlight: Lemonade Stand GS promises a bottomless pitcher of
wholesome computer fun.

DumplinGS: The LANceGS Ethernet card for the Apple II is now shipping; the
Marinetti Open Source Project invites more participation in TCP/IP program
development; and several new CDs, including the must-have compilation of
the complete Genie Apple II libraries, Time in a Bottle.

Letters from the Land of ROM: Readers ask questions, get answers, make
suggestions, and otherwise give us a piece of their mind. We have the
coolest readers in the world. Read our mail and see why.

ADVERTISEMENTS

New SheppyWare products; A2Central.com; the Totally SheppyWare CD;
Juiced.GS Friends for Life CD-ROM; and three new CDs, including Time in a
Bottle, from Juiced.GS
============

Juiced.GS is a quarterly, printed publication available by subscription
only.

A subscription for 2000 is $16 in the U.S., Canada or Mexico, $22
elsewhere.

To subscribe, send a check or money order in U.S. funds to:

 Max Jones
 Juiced.GS
 2217 Lakeview Drive
 Sullivan, IN 47882

Make checks or money orders payable to Max Jones.

To subscribe by credit card, visit the Juiced.GS online order processing
site on the World Wide Web. The URL is:

 http://order.kagi.com/?2ZM

Complete sets of 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999 issues are available for $14
each ($20 overseas). If you would like to purchase only a specific single
copy (or copies) of back issues, they are available for $4 each ($6
overseas). An index and brief description of articles published in
'96/'97'98/'99 are available on the Juiced.GS web site. See URL below.

Apple II Forever!

 Max Jones
 Juiced.GS
 E-mail -- Internet: juicedgs@earthlink.net
 World Wide Web: http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs

(JUICEDGS, 33639, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[PGS]
POWER ON THE IIgs
"""""""""""""""""
Ah, but on a IIgs, many people forget the importance of the connector that
takes the power from the power supply to the motherboard. A thousand ills
and crashes can be put down to dirty contacts on that little plug.

I found it needed cleaning around every six months or sooner. The clue is
if you see flickering on the screen during floppy access...

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.3 & Crock O' Gold 3.3
 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
 Home Pages: http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/

(EWANNOP, 33573, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[LCP]
LOST CLASSICS PROJECT FORGES AHEAD
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
A bunch of new releases today, courtesy of Lost Classics!

                    *******************************

 Name: DIVTUNE11.BXY (Graphics and Sound)
 Date: 15-OCT-2000 14:33
  By: HKATZ
 Size: 395520

DiversiTune ver 1.1 is a very powerful MIDI and music sequencer for the
Apple IIGS, which adds some unique features to your composition. It allows
you to add lyrics to your compositions with an animated bouncing ball as
well as a "player piano" display. DiversiTune is a recording studio for
MIDI keyboards. You can record multiple tracks with different voices
(instruments), re-record when you make flubs, and so on. For users not
interested in composing their own songs, there are song disks that are also
available. Some sample songs are included in the archive. Released as
Freeware via the Lost Classics Project; please see the enclosed FREEWARE
notice for additional information. (Our thanks to Mitchell Spector for his
help in securing this release.)

                    *******************************

 Name: PHOTONIX2.BXY (Utility Software)
 Date: 15-OCT-2000 14:40
   By: HKATZ
 Size: 163072

Photonix II is a copying program for the Apple IIgs: it brings together
esthetics and technical performance with an attractive look, efficiency,
and speed and effectiveness of its copying options. The program will do
full disk copying, either single disks or mass-copying, and will also do
some virus checking. Photonix II, unlike it's predecessor, is hard-drive
installable.

Minimum requirements for the use of Photonix II - An Apple IIgs, ROM 00,
01, or 03 - A minimum of one Apple 3.5" disk drive, two is useful - At
least 1.128 Megabytes of memory.

Documentation files for this program have been written by Joe Walters and
may be found in the archive in both text and AppleWorks format (see
photonix.txt or photonix.awp.)

Now release as Freeware by Olivier Goguel and FTA. Released via the Lost
Classics Project.

                    *******************************

 Name: DUELTRISR.BXY (Entertainment Software)
 Date: 15-OCT-2000 14:39
   By: HKATZ
 Size: 307072

Dueltris is a Tetris-like Apple IIGS game where the object is to make lines
out of falling geometric shapes. Now released by DreamWorld Software as
freeware via the Lost Classics Project. Thanks to Mitchell Spector for help
in obtaining this release.

                    *******************************

 Name: DREAMGRAFIX.BXY (Graphics and Sound)
 Date: 15-OCT-2000 14:41
   By: HKATZ
 Size: 553088

DreamGrafix is an Apple IIGS paint program capable of working on 256-color
and even 3200-color images. It runs under GS/OS, and includes sample art.
Now released as freeware by DreamWorld Software via the Lost Classics
Project. Thanks to Mitchell Spector for his help in obtaining this release.

(TONYW1, 33596, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[LSA]
LANceGS SUPPORT AREA
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Since the support for the LANceGS card on A2Central.com is not yet working,
here is a temporary support area.

If you don't know the LANceGS card, please read all about it on

 {<http://lancegs.a2central.com> http://lancegs.a2central.com}

Best regards,

Joachim Lange

(JLANGE6, 33232, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[LPL]
LANceGS PRICE LOWERED
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The strong Dollar allows us to lower the price for the LANceGS card
significantly.

See the LANceGS support area at

 {<http://lancegs.a2central.com/> http://lancegs.a2central.com/}

for an updated pricing.

Joachim Lange

(JLANGE6, 33362, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SOA]
LANceGS - SORTING IT OUT 1
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From the LanceGS FAQ at http://lancegs.a2central.com/faq/index.html:

> Note, however, that due to limitations in the current version of
> Marinetti, you can't connect to systems through router devices; this
> means you can only currently connect to computers on your local network.

Could someone tell me what that means, or how to do it? I have DSL (not
working, but anyway...) and all the computers are online simultaneously by
running through a router which connects to the DSL modem. How would I put
my IIgs online - that is, how can I connect my IIgs to my PowerBook G3,
which has only one Ethernet port?

Thanks,

-Ken

(KEN_GAGNE, 33383, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Could someone tell me what that means, or how to do it?

It means that if the computer you want to connect to using LANceGS isn't in
your immediate vicinity and you can touch it, you can't do it.

> I have DSL (not working, but anyway...) and all the computers are online
> simultaneously by running through a router which connects to the DSL
> modem. How would I put my IIgs online - that is, how can I connect my
> IIgs to my PowerBook G3, which has only one Ethernet port?

You'll need a hub and a second IP address.

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution

(RSUENAGA, 33389, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Ryan,

I have enough unique IP addresses to satisfy the requirements of all those
on the LAN, including a potential Apple IIgs. How much does a hub cost, and
how does it differ from a router?

Sorry for the amateur questions, but I've never done any real networking
(beyond dialing into the Internet) and all this stuff really is new to me.
(Leave it to the Apple II to give me a reason to learn :)

-Ken

(KEN_GAGNE, 33409, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> I have enough unique IP addresses to satisfy the requirements of all
> those on the LAN, including a potential Apple IIgs. How much does a hub
> cost, and how does it differ from a router?

Hubs will vary in cost by how many ports they have and what speed they run
at. It's now pretty easy to find 8 port 10 base T hubs for $40 or less, at
least on the used/refurb/surplus market.

A router is something that will actually send TCP/IP packets to the proper
computers on the hub, kind of like a policeman routing traffic. A hub just
gets everything on the same road.

 Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
 Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
 Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution

(RSUENAGA, 33416, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[SOB]
LANceGS - SORTING IT OUT 2
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Does anyone have a IIGS (or IIe) hooked up to their Ethernet LAN AND can
make the telnet that comes with Marinetti work? I'm wondering if I'm
missing something blindingly obvious, or maybe I'm trying to do the
impossible. For that matter, the other comps can't ping my IIGs, though the
hub says it's there, and on the TCPIP LanceGS tools, the IIGs sends out
packets and receives them just fine...

Any ideas? THANKS!!

~Tarage
Email: {<mailto:tarage@bellsouth.net> tarage@bellsouth.net}

(TARAGE, 33223, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Does anyone have a IIGS (or IIe) hooked up to their Ethernet LAN AND can
> make the telnet that comes with Marinetti work?

I haven't unpacked my GS since I moved two weeks ago, but before that, I
couldn't get any TCP/IP traffic to work. UDP and ICMP work fine.

> I'm wondering if I'm missing something blindingly obvious, or maybe I'm
> trying to do the impossible.

I still have a little debugging to do with my set up to determine which bit
of code is buggy.

Its possible that the solution, as suggested in the LANceGS manual, is that
you will have to adjust the load order of your system extensions to get it
to work.

> For that matter, the other comps can't ping my IIGs

If you are lucky, your GS will crash right away when it gets pinged. If you
are unlucky, only your memory will get trashed.

(SISGEOFF, 33238, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Does anyone have a IIGS (or IIe) hooked up to their Ethernet LAN AND can
> make the telnet that comes with Marinetti work?

So far, I've been totally unsuccessful at trying to make this work. This
weekend, I intend to try SIS through the LANceGS to my hub, and then to my
cable modem. Haven't tried that yet.

> Its possible that the solution, as suggested in the LANceGS manual, is
> that you will have to adjust the load order of your system extensions to
> get it to work.

Well, how about a simple "Full System v6.01 =AND= Marinetti" only? Should
that meet those requirements, or are you talking about load order of
"extras"?

Also, I haven't yet been able to even "see" my other computers hooked up to
the LAN, and the other computers haven't been able to "see" the IIgs. Can
someone explain the total process (on both sides --- IIgs =and= Mac) to get
at least this part to work? I don't need AppleTalk turned on, do I? Simply
turning on "File Sharing" should do it...I think?

BTW, the LANceGS passes all tests, so I know the hardware's working, and I
know the Mac's hardware is working, and I know the LAN wiring is working,
so it must be configuration that I can't figure out. Any help at all would
be great, but if someone could put together a "step-by-step" process for
file sharing with the IIgs/LANceGS combo and a Mac, I'm sure it would
benefit many...and I'd be your slave for life! ;-)

Jeff Carr

Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
Spectrum v2.3 and Crock O' Gold v3.3

(LUMITECH, 33249, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
The LANceGS card and software don't do AppleTalk, so file sharing is
entirely irrelevant. The only software that will work, at this time, would
be Marinetti-compatible networking programs.

Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net

(SHEPPY, 33251, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Also, I haven't yet been able to even "see" my other computers hooked up
> to the LAN, and the other computers haven't been able to "see" the IIgs.
> Can someone explain the total process (on both sides --- IIgs =and= Mac)
> to get at least this part to work? I don't need AppleTalk turned on, do
> I? Simply turning on "File Sharing" should do it...I think?

Jeff,

The key to see whether two computers can talk to each other over a LAN is
to check out if a Ping request will be successfully replied to. Since the
Ping from outside towards the Apple won't work (at this time), you need to
check the opposite direction. If you get back a Ping reply on your Apple
(after having sent out a Ping request), the computers can talk to each
other. This confirmation means that these two computers most likely will be
able to exchange data using the TCP/IP protocol. Other protocols (there are
plenty of others) are not supported by Marinetti.

You have two choices for a Ping test. Either use Geoff Weiss' GWPing with
Marinetti installed, or use the IPTools program supplied on the LANceGS
disk (Marinetti not required for this one).

> BTW, the LANceGS passes all tests, so I know the hardware's working, and
> I know the Mac's hardware is working, and I know the LAN wiring is
> working, so it must be configuration that I can't figure out. Any help at
> all would be great, but if someone could put together a "step-by-step"
> process for file sharing with the IIgs/LANceGS combo and a Mac, I'm sure
> it would benefit many...and I'd be your slave for life! ;-)

Regarding the LANceGS card, I have never used the words "AppleTalk" and
"File Sharing" in any of my statements or specifications, so I'm somewhat
astonished how these expectations come up. From the first day the LANceGS
has been made public, I thought it was clear that the card works with
Marinetti, and it should be clear enough what Marinetti does. Marinetti is
the TCP/IP protocol handler, and it's up to the user application set on top
of the TCP/IP stack what can be achieved.

Joachim

(JLANGE6, 33252, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Either use Geoff Weiss' GWPing with Marinetti installed, or use the
> IPTools program supplied on the LANceGS disk.

I never got the Ping in IPTools to work. The ping program I wrote works
fine. I didn't spend any time to figure out why the one in IPTools didn't
work since mine worked.

Geoff Weiss

(SISGEOFF, 33254, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
In message 'LanceGS :) Problems :( (Re: Msg 33249)' JLANGE6 said:

> The key to see whether two computers can talk to each other over a LAN
> is to check out if a Ping request will be successfully replied to. Since
> the Ping from outside towards the Apple won't work (at this time), you
> need to check the opposite direction. If you get back a Ping reply on
> your Apple (after having sent out a Ping request), the computers can talk
> to each other. This confirmation means that these two computers most
> likely will be able to exchange data using the TCP/IP protocol. Other
> protocols (there are plenty of others) are not supported by Marinetti.

I understand this part, and am using Marinetti TCP/IP. However, I've been
unable to exchange data. Ping requests from the IIgs are answered by the
Mac.

> You have two choices for a Ping test. Either use Geoff Weiss' GWPing with
> Marinetti installed, or use the IPTools program supplied on the LANceGS
> disk (Marinetti not required for this one).

I've been using the IPTools program supplied on the LANceGS disk, with
success...for Pings only.

> Regarding the LANceGS card, I have never used the words "AppleTalk" and
> "File Sharing" in any of my statements or specifications, so I'm somewhat
> astonished how these expectations come up. From the first day the LANceGS
> has been made public, I thought it was clear that the card works with
> Marinetti, and it should be clear enough what Marinetti does. Marinetti
> is the TCP/IP protocol handler, and it's up to the user application set
> on top of the TCP/IP stack what can be achieved.

OK, from this point is where it becomes unclear to me. The two computers
(IIgs and iMac) are connected via TCP/IP to a hub, and the IIgs
successfully sends pings to the Mac via the IPTools program supplied. My
experience, from a "user" standpoint, is that once I've made a successful
TCP/IP connection via EtherNet (regardless of platform), the two computers
are "sharing", or "talking" as you call it above. The only reason I even
mentioned "AppleTalk" is because I can't seem to share with the Mac via
this configuration, so I thought perhaps "AppleTalk" needed to be turned
on.

I'm not intending to imply that there was any mis-representation, so please
don't interpret my queries as that. My understanding, as a "user", must be
flawed. I know that Marinetti is required on the IIgs side, and it is
active and being used successfully for testing. So, what "user
applications" can I use, both on the IIgs side =and= the Mac side, to
further enhance the communication level above simple "pinging"?

That, basically, is my question. Sorry if I introduced or implied anything
else. I'm happy that I bought the card and know that it will serve the
purpose that I want it to, it's simply that I obviously don't understand
what's needed from a "user" level to further implement the connection.

Jeff Carr

Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:
Spectrum v2.3 and Crock O' Gold v3.3

(LUMITECH, 33256, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[NDL]
NEW DRIVER FOR THE LANceGS CARD
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To all, mostly..

Got the newest driver for the LANceGS and have escaped my local network...
Joy!

I'm using IPNetRouter on a Mac to share my cable modem and now my GS is
free to roam the Internet like the Big Boys. B-{)

I love seeing hub LED's flash from my GS's port!

Thanks, Joachim!

(KMITCHEL, 33586, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Editor's note:

If you own tHE LANCEGS card you should consider asking for the recently
updated driver.  Send email to ///SHH Systeme and ask for a copy.
[EOA]


[BDO]
BRUTAL DELUXE ONLINE WITH NEW WEB SITE
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Brutal Deluxe Software
...is proud to announce that our new web site is online.

Please visit us at
{<http://www.brutal-deluxe.net> www.brutal-deluxe.net} ;-)
 
Antoine Vignau & Olivier Zardini
Brutal Deluxe Software

(TOINET, 33608, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[PSD]
PROBLEMS WITH SUPER DRIVE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
I happened to get hold of a Super Drive and its controller the other day,
so I thought all the PC <--> IIgs transfer hassles would be eliminated for
good. I plugged the controller in slot 5, connected the Super Drive and
another 800K 3.5" drive, entered control panel and set slot 5 to "your
card". I booted system 6.0.1 but the drive icons did not appear on the
desktop.

That didn't matter as they did show up when I inserted 800K disks in them.
However, the most bizarre phenomenon has just begun. I formatted several
1.4MB HD disks on my pc with Windows 98 SE. When I put a blank disk in the
Super Drive, the system could recognize it and showed "MS-DOS xxx" as the
name of the icon. I tried to copy a 2MG file from pc and put it in the
Super Drive again, and it was able to read the file as well as copy it to a
folder on IIgs' hard drive. But when I put a SHK or SDK file in the disk,
the icon would not appear nor any utility I tried was able to recognize the
disk and file.

In short, as long as there were SHK or SDK files in the disk, my IIgs
simply refused to recognize it, but that did not happen when the disk was
empty or contained 2MG files. I also tried to install all possible FST and
what not from system 6.0.1 install disk, but nothing helped at all. I hope
anyone experienced in such matter could help. Any kind of opinion is also
appreciated.

(SAVANT32, 33175, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> I happened to get hold of a Super Drive and its controller the other day,
> so I thought all the PC <--> IIgs transfer hassles would be eliminated
> for good.

Trust me, it will. I now have a SuperDrive setup on each of my currently
active IIgs's and it has become an indispensable tool for file exchange.

I believe I know the cause of your problem and how to solve it, see below.

> I plugged the controller in slot 5, connected the Super Drive and another
> 800K 3.5" drive, entered control panel and set slot 5 to "your card".

A small tip: I suggest installing the card in slot-6 and setting that to
'Your Card'. This disables any 5.25" drives that may be connected, but
rarely will you need one operating along side your SuperDrive at the same
time (and when it is needed, just toggle the Control Panel setting and
reboot).

Next, attach your Apple 3.5 (800K) to the GS's built-in floppy port which
will now be free. Many older games, demos and applications are hardcoded to
work using the Smartport and will _fail_ to boot through a drive attached
to an Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card. If you want compatibility with
older floppy based software, this is a must.

> I booted system 6.0.1 but the drive icons did not appear on the desktop.
> That didn't matter as they did show up when I inserted 800K disks in
> them. However, the most bizarre phenomenon has just begun. I formatted
> several 1.4MB HD disks on my pc with Windows 98 SE.

The problem is this, Windows 95 and later introduced long file names that
shattered the 8.3 limit of MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 (which was just a shell
interface atop DOS). Apple released the MSDOS.FST back in 1993, well before
Windows 95 and up, and thus doesn't understand how to deal very well with
long file names among other things.

One "bug" is if you format a floppy disk *without* giving it a volume
label, the MSDOS.FST won't attempt to mount the disk. Even if you attempt
to correct this by later giving the disk a volume label once there files
are copied to it, it still won't mount.

The solution is simple: Format (or quick format/erase) a floppy disk and
give it a volume label **BEFORE** you copy any files to it. Once you've
done this, the disk will read fine on the Apple IIgs side.

Peter Watson's "MUG!" NDA is unaffected by this incidentally, although I
still like being able to read MSDOS diskettes from the Finder desktop and
any GS/OS applications (i.e. ShrinkIt-GS). It is still worthwhile getting a
hold of MUG! since it allows you to write (albeit slowly) to MSDOS volumes,
whereas Apple's FST is read-only.

If you have a SuperDrive setup, MUG! (or Peter's shell based MS-DOS
Utilities if you prefer a command line) is a must-have.

Mitchell Spector
 {<mailto:spec@total.net> spec@total.net}

(SPECTOR1, 33190, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
Giving a volume label after formatting a MS-DOS disk DID work! Now the IIgs
can see the disk and the files on it when it is inserted in the drive. This
is indeed tricky which I never regarded as necessary or important when
twiddling with pc. I think I am granted the access to the SHK library I
have collected but haven't been able to use. A million thanks to Mitchell!
You did help me a lot. By the way, putting the controller in slot 6 is also
a nice tip.

Thanks to Ryan and Joat too. I paid attention to make the file names
conform to MS-DOS restrictions (8+3). The situation was that the disk was
invisible (not mounted) on desktop if I put SHK files in it, so I had no
way to see the contents. Even GSHK was unable to read the files on the
disk. But they are all resolved now. Thanks for your opinions.

(SAVANT32, 33221, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
> Giving a volume label after formatting a MS-DOS disk DID work! Now the
> IIgs can see the disk and the files on it.

Glad that did the trick, I suspected that was the source of your problem.

Now that your able to transfer software to your IIgs, I suggest one of the
first things you download is Peter Watson's MUG! NDA for writing to MSDOS,
allowing you to transfer files in the opposite direction. Follow the URL
below:

 {<ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/Ndas/mug101.bxy>
ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/Ndas/mug101.bxy}

Incidentally, if you download from a web browser on the PC side, make sure
to right-click on files and select "Save Link As". Clicking on it directly
will cause it to be displayed as ASCII and subsequently not saved in binary
mode afterwards (which WILL corrupt a ShrinkIt archive). You can also
configure Netscape to recognize *.SHK, *.BXY, etc, as binary files to avoid
trouble altogether.

>Thanks to Ryan and Joat too. I paid attention to make the file
>names conform to MS-DOS restrictions (8+3).

That's not entirely necessary. If you copy a file to disk which file name
exceeds DOS's 8.3 limit, GS/OS displays it much the way MS-DOS would. For
example, "Wolfenstein3D.SHK" will be shortened and displayed as
"Wolfen~1.SHK" and will _still_ be accessible from ShrinkIt-GS. If you want
to see the entire long file name displayed, view the disk using MUG! NDA.

Mitchell Spector
 {<mailto:spec@total.net> spec@total.net}

(SPECTOR1, 33243, GO COM A2)
[EOA]


[WPL]
WHICH PRINTER FOR PRINTING LABELS WITH THE Apple II?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
A dot-matrix printer still works better with AppleWorks for mailing labels
than a laser printer does--I've never quite gotten the printout to line up
properly with the sheet-feed method that laser printer uses. :)

Later..........Howard

(HKATZ, 33365, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
That's what I originally thought when I first got my LaserJet, but really,
I don't think it's true after having fed thousands and thousands of address
labels through the LaserJet.

The only real problem is lining up the top label, but I have a perfectly
acceptable work-around for that. I do waste some labels, but at $10 or so
for 5000 labels, who cares?

It'd be much easier to show you how I do it, but I'll try to explain it...

I use standard continuous feed labels, 11 to a sheet, remove the top most
label, and then fold over the top approximately 1/2 inch. Then, whether I
have one label to print, or 1000, just feed those folded-over strips of
labels through the LaserJet.

OTOH, I do use AppleWorks GS for printing my return address label, and with
GS/OS and Harmonie, no folding is necessary ;-)

It's been a long time since I set up those AW custom report formats, but if
you want me to look at the settings I use, give a holler.

As it is, I kept the IW II set up just for labels, but not for long ;-)

 Joe Kohn
 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko

(JOE_KOHN, 33371, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
I would like to know your method for doing it on AW classic, Joe. do you
also know offhand the "avery label" type you're using?

Later..........Howard

(HKATZ, 33376, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
To begin with, Howard, I'm using the LaserJet driver that was on the NAUG
Printer Disk. As I remember, all I had to do to get that going was to
change the Init String so that it worked with my parallel card.

As far as the labels, I'm currently using Avery brand 4013.

Those come 12 to a sheet. I waste the top one, as I pull it off, and then
fold over the top of that sheet 1/2 inch. Since my method only prints 10
labels per sheet, I have an extra one at the bottom of each sheet, so I
re-use those later when I have just one label to print.

In the AppleWorks Database, I have a report format set up for mailing
labels, and here's the settings which I think are the most important
ones...

 Platen Width = 8.0"
 Left Margin = .3"
 Right Margin = 0.0

 Paper Length = 1.0"
 Top/Bottom Margins = 0.0

 Printing Length = 1.0"
 Lines Per Inch = 6

I set up that report format soon after getting the LaserJet, and have never
had to fiddle with it at all. For my purposes, it works fast and
efficiently, whether I have one mailing label to print or 1,000.

If I left anything out, just holler.

 Joe Kohn
 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko

(JOE_KOHN, 33396, GO COM A2)

<<<<<
"""""
The NAUG printer driver disk can be found both here, and on the Trenco FTP
database too. (ftp.gno.org). There's versions set up for AW3, 4 and 5, as
well as a nifty utility by Doug Gum that will take a custom printer setup
from one version of AW, and then read it into the SEG.ER file of another.
So, if you have a custom printer setup in AW3, you can have the program
read it into AW5 and you don't have to worry about mistyping when putting
all those esc. codes in by hand. :)

Come to think of it, th NAUG driver disks are also available from SSII, if
memory serves. :)

Later............Howard

(HKATZ, 33430, GO COM A2)

>>>>>
"""""
Well, that, and about 600 other National AppleWorks User Group disks.

For folks who would rather not (or can't) download it, the NAUG Printer
Disk is available for $5, and that includes versions for AW 3 to AW 5.

 Joe Kohn
 Shareware Solutions II
 166 Alpine St
 San Rafael, CA 94901

   Joe
   http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko

(JOE_KOHN, 33431, GO COM A2)
[EOA]






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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[BBS]
BUGS IN BASIC SYSTEM v1.5 ?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I recently was looking over the "Time in a Bottle" CD which consists of
posts and programs from the old GEnie A2 forums, and it had some vague
messages pertaining to possible bugs in Basic.System v1.5.

Does anyone know of any bugs in Basic.System v1.5?

The posts were written in the fashion "I seem to recall a problem..." and
kept asking for a Tim Keller to verify. Is Tim Keller still around?

The problems were:

1) Problems with large text files, &
2) Mysterious hangs

Well, this info is vague, but I have seen hangs during the CLOSE command
(which also sometimes trashes the file & directory to such a point that you
have to use ProSel-16's hidden sort-delete command to fix it).

My exact problem: I have poked locations on page 3 that don't change during
a reboot and I narrowed down my mysterious hangs to the CLOSE command. It
does not consistently happen, but running the program under GS/OS system 6
(ProDOS v2.0.3 & BI v1.5) it happens quite a bit. Booting directly into
ProDOS helps a little.

Also when the program hangs the GS control panel is locked out, reset won't
reset, and only a open-apple-control-reset will recover. Rarely, the hang
causes file damage (see above).

I've rewrote this section of code 3 times now without luck, but the program
used to run flawlessly. So I went back to my archives and ran it for a few
weeks AND had no problem! Why? Well, the archive 3.5" disk which I was
booting into had ProDOS v1.8 and Basic.System v1.5. So I started booting
directly into a ProDOS partition with ProDOS v1.8 and have had NO problems!
At this point there is only one possibility that I can think of that might
cause these problems: there is only 2K of free memory in my program when
the text file is opened (leaving less than 1K remaining).

Any thoughts?

Jeff Fink
email: {<mailto:finkjsc@yahoo.com> finkjsc@yahoo.com}

(FINKSTERJ, 3205, GO COM A2P)

>>>>>
"""""
I think I first brought this up to both Tim Kellers and Howard Katz over on
GEnie shortly after I discovered BASIC SYSTEM 1.5.

At the time I was involved with a company called Temporal Acuity Products
(TAP), and had developed a hard drive version of their 50+ music
reading/training programs. I had been using BASIC 1.4.1 with ProDOS 1.9. I
switched to ProDOS 2.x and BASIC 1.5.

I was experiencing occasional lockups in the programs, but never really
reproducible on a regular basis. However, I did notice that some programs
that had INVERSE characters would display MOUSETEXT instead of the older
duplicate set of inverse characters. Tim, particularly, agreed that there
must be some bug in 1.5 ... because if I used the same version of ProDOS,
but changed to BASIC 1.4.1 there never was a problem.

We never did figure out was/is wrong with 1.5's code. <sigh>

This is why I still use BASIC 1.4.1 ... even on my gs.

Chuck

CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host (go com a2)
  Delivered by OLRight! (v4.1) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
    and posted on the TEXT side.

(CHUNK_S, 3207, GO COM A2P)
[EOA]





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[NSC]
NO SLOT CLOCK OPERATION / INSTALLATION
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Yesterday I saw that you had a reference in one of the latest issues of The
Lamp (August 2000) about the No Slot Clock (NSC).  First, some history
about my equipment:

I have a //e with a NSC as well as a Franklin 1200, both of which also have
a Z80 computer.  They both have 2 disk drive boards and the Apple has an 8
Mhz ZIP chip and an 128K expansion board while the Franklin has a Super
Serial Card (SSC) with a 300 baud modem.  Just 2 weeks ago I was given a 32
Meg PC (ugh) with 56k modem but I still do and always will use my 6502s for
99% of my work.  I have Turbo Pascal 3.0, Apple Pascal 1.2, Fortran, Mix C,
GraForth, many Basics and many other languages that run on these 'old
dilapidated' machines.  I got my //e 10 years ago because my Franklin 1000
was killed by trying to get the ZIP Chip to work in it. Shortly after
getting my //e, I saw a NSC at a local electronics store and bought it.  I
still have the original box it came in as well as the instructions and
software that came with it.  After I got the NSC, I wrote several utilities
to display and change its DATA.  One of the latest things that I have done
is get the ProDOS version of ZBasic (vice the CPM version that  already
had) and I have translated these programs to work under that language.

A No Slot Clock (NSC) can easily get around the problem of no spare slots
and it provides an excellent clock source that gives more information than
a time card does (this was the original question).  In the old //e's it
goes under the CD chip & the documentation has it as the CE (don't they
mean CF?) ROM in the newer (it's the only PROM).

NOTE:  You will NOT damage your computer if the NSC is in the wrong socket
just as long as you always get the pin orientation of the NSC and IC
correct (and of course never break off any the pins).

Under DOS 3.3, you must first BLOAD CLOCKREAD and do a CALL in order to
read data from the NSC or BLOAD CLOCKWRITE and do a CALL in order to write
data to the NSC.  (I use a hello program that I call HELLO.TIME that clears
the screen and prints out the current time/date and Day Of Week and then
waits for a keypress before running what was my regular HELLO program).

If you are in ProDOS and you just want the time (HH:MM) and date
(MM/DD/YY), then you do NOT have to do anything special after you have
loaded (booted with) the altered ProDOS (eg. if you just want your CATalog
to be date/time stamped when you do disk operations, like saves, etc. OR if
you used a specialized BASIC like ZBASIC that has TIME and DATE functions
built into them ).  If you want to get the seconds, hundredths of seconds
and the Day Of Week or have these DATA or the time while using DOS 3.3,
then you must BLOAD the CLOCKREAD program first and use a CALL statement
whenever you wanted the latest values.

From the SetUp disk that comes with the clock, you must do the following:
1) First run the INSTALL.BAS program.
2) Highlight the SETCLOCK utility and run it to set the time, month, date,
   hours and minutes. Select Install Patch to ProDOS System where you will
   be asked to install a disk to update the ProDOS.. (If it does not
   recognize the version of ProDOS, it will not update it and print out a
   message saying so.)
3) Then you must reboot your system with this disk in order to use the
   clock.

Always run the SETCLOCK utility from the utility at least ONCE after
installing the clock.

This patches the ProDOS to read date and time from the NSC.  As far as I
can recall, this has always been then ONLY way to access the NSC.  I have
never seen or heard of a version for the NSC that was a *.SYSTEM program.
However, I have entered and used a *.SYSTEM program that would load and run
first and would allow you to set the time and date and would then run a
second *.SYSTEM file.  (This was actually a BASIC program that ran 1st
after loading BASIC.SYSTEM and gave you the option of setting any time or
date option and set a default value for changes that were not changed.
This allowed you to have your files date/time stamped even though you did
NOT have a timecard.  (from Nibble magazine, COMPUTE!, etc.) (does it
already do so on a GS ?).

Anyway, I could supply them the code to SET, read and write to the NSC
(a copy of the 5.25 floppy that came with the NSC).

I was never able to figure out how to switch between 12 / 24 hour format
(it seems that 12 hour format is a setting of the HI bit (MSB) to 1 in the
5th register).  A setting of the 5th bit (2 bits to the right of the MSB)
of that register being the bit that indicates AM / PM hours with a 1
indicating PM ( stating that bit 5 is the second 10 hour bit (20-23 hours).

Dan Wallace   Dan_Wallace@Juno.com  or  wallacde@onizuka.af.mil
[EOA]


[CAT]
C FOR THE 8 BIT Apple II
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First quotes from the January, 1999 issue of The Lamp.

--- start of quotes ---
C FOR THE 8 BIT II?   You won't find any on disk. The only C-like compiler
"""""""""""""""""""   ever created for 8-bit Apple II systems that I'm
aware of is HyperC, and as far as I know it can only be gotten by
downloading it.

(I don't deny the possibility that other 8-bit C compilers have existed for
the II, but I don't know of any for sure :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum
                       (SHEPPY, 2362, GO COM A2PRO)

>>>>>   Actually, there was a compiler called Aztec C from Manx Software
"""""   years ago. I expect you'd have to find a used copy at this point.

In general, though, the Apple IIc just doesn't have enough memory for a C
compiler. As you start to use whatever you find, keep that basic fact in
mind. If you're serious about C programming, you need a larger
machine--like the Apple IIGS.

Mike Westerfield
                      (BYTEWORKS, 2363, GO COM A2PRO)
--- end of quotes ---

Now my comments:

First, I have and use Apple Pascal 1.2 as well as what I originally had,
Turbo Pascal 3.0.

There was also the mention of  'Aztec C' for the Apple back in the 80's.
However, I have a powerful C that was not mentioned.  It is called 'Mix C'
and sold for only $30.  There was also a 'Small C' in the Public  Domain
that I have yet to figure out.

The only trouble with Turbo Pascal and Mix C is the fact that you need a
CPM board (with a Z80 chip) to order to run them on the Apple.  I had
purchased an AE Z-80 board for my original Franklin Ace 1000 very early on
in order to run Turbo Pascal.  I now have a Franklin Ace 1200 as well as an
Apple //e (with an 8 Mhz Zip chip), both of which have a Z80 board.

This board makes the computer actually '2' computers in one.  It greatly
increases the available software and greatly enhances the ability of the
Apple //.  Using the CPM board, I have the 'C', Pascal and Fortran as well
as several Basics (C, G, M, Z etc.) to use as languages in which to write
programs in on a 'BASIC only' Apple //.

What many people do not realize is that CPM, developed by DEC, is what
MSDOS/basic was developed from (on a PDP 1170, like the one I used almost
20 years ago) in just a couple of days.  If you know CPM, then you know how
to use MSDOS, something that most people cannot do today.  The 'Windows'
operating system is just MSDOS with a GUI (graphical interface), one of the
oldest of systems.

Dan Wallace <Dan_Wallace@juno.com>
Dan Wallace <wallacde@onizuka.af.mil>
[EOA]


[LTE]
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[KFT]
KFest 2001
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                                Plan Ahead
                                ~~~~~~~~~~
KFest 2001 is set for July 25-29 (early arrivals on July 24) at Avila
College.  Put it on your calender and start saving your money.  You will be
glad you did.
[EOA]




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