[HEA]
    _____________________   ___                                   _
    |___   ______________| |   |                                 | |
        |  | _             |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |                                 | |
        |  || |            |   |   ____ _   _ _   _   ______     | |
        |  || |            |   |  / __ \ | | / \_/ \  | ___ \    | |
        |  || |__   ____   |   | / /  \  | |  /\ /\ \ | |  \ \   | |
        |  ||  _ \ |  _ \  |   | \ \__/  | | | |_|| | | |__/ /   | |
        |  || | | || |_||  |   |  \___/|_| |_|    |_| | ____/    |_|
        |  || | | || |__   |   |____________________  | |         _
        |__||_| |_|\____/  |________________________| | |        |_|
                                                      | |
         Lighting Your Apple II Path                  | |
                                                      |_|

-----------------------------------


                       >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


           THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm Online
          AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
           "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"


 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 The Lamp!            An Onipa'a Software Production        Vol. 5, No. 9
 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
 Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
 Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
 Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net
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                            TABLE OF CONTENTS
                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            September 15, 2002

HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]
     Nature's Art Work
     Greenwich Art Fair
     A Time for Gratitude
     Access to Apple II Software
     The Tinkerer's Corner

A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS
     Problem With Files Downloaded From Library?----------------------[PWL]
     Phone Systems Alike From Country to Country?---------------------[PSA]
     Memory Lane - the Old 8 Bit Games--------------------------------[MLG]
     Joysticks for the Apple II---------------------------------------[JSA]
     Any 8 Bit Games That Used a Mouse for Controls?------------------[MFC]
     3.5" Disk Drives on the IIe--------------------------------------[TDD]
     Installation of Larger Drive on Focus Card - Problem Solved------[ILD]
     More Than Adequate Storage for the IIgs--------------------------[MAS]
     Moving Files From A2 Floppy Disks to iMac or PowerBook-----------[MFT]
     Speculating on Potential Uses of the Emulator, Florence----------[PUF]
     Florence Java Requirements---------------------------------------[FJR]
     File Type Assignment - Adobe Acrobat Document--------------------[FTA]

ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM
     To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]

DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS
     New to the Apple II - Have Questions-----------------------------[NAT]

DELPHI A2Pro DISTILLATIONS
     Announcing - Crypto Tool Set-------------------------------------[CTS]

THE TINKERER'S CORNER
     You are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI]
     Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive--------------------------[CDD]

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
     No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]
     An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]

KFEST 2002
     KFest Reminder---------------------------------------------------[KFR]
     Pictures From KFest 2002-----------------------------------------[PFK]

KFEST 2003
     KFest 2003 - Plan to be There!-----------------------------------[PBT]

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]


                                [*] [*] [*]

READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will find
something like:

EXTRA INNINGS
     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]

To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].



[OPN]-------------------------------
         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
------------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>

                             Nature's Art Work
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The annual parade of colors has begun.  The view from High Above The
Rock River is always inspiring.  But especially so from mid September
through the first part of November, watching from day to day the steady
change of color in the tree leaves.

                             Greenwich Art Fair
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     This art fair is held just a block away in mid September.  The
exhibiters have earned the right to participate by submitting photographs
of their work to a panel of judges.

     Portraits with such detail that to study them carefully is be begin to
know the individual portrayed.  Scenes that look three dimensional even
though painted on a flat surface.  Beautiful sculptures.

     A delightful feast for the eyes.  A chance to talk to the artists.
A chance to buy some of the art work.

                           A Time for Gratitude
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     An experience such as this reminds us that we should take time out now
and then to be grateful for the efforts of many individuals... those who
created the Apple II's... those who created the many hardware add-ons...
those who created the thousands of software titles.

                        Access to Apple II Software
                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The sources for Apple II software include the CD compilations such as
the recent release of the SoftDisk GS titles.

CD ROMs featuring Apple II software:
     Kohn, Joe                       http://users.FoxValley.net/~joko/
     Syndicomm Online Store          http://store.syndicomm.com
     Eamon Adventures                Tom Zuchowski <tzuchow@attglobal.net>

                           The Tinkerer's Corner
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     This month we feature putting together a CD ROM drive for your IIgs so
you can begin using the many CD's of software that are available.

[EOA]



ASCII ART BEGINS
_________  _                     _                                      _
|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |
   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |
   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |
   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |
   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |
   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|
   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _
   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|
                                                            | |
                                                            | |
                                                            |_|

ASCII ART ENDS
[EOA]

---------------------------------------------------
DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com  |
                                  (A2Central.com) |
---------------------------------------------------

by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[PWL]
PROBLEM WITH FILES DOWNLOADED FROM LIBRARY?
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I'm not sure where to put a message asking about problems with the Library,
but here goes...

I was downloading some of the GEnie RTC transcripts to read, and some are
ShrinkIt packed (.BXY). No problem, I'll use Shrink II to open them.
Doesn't work. Go to Bernie and try with ShrinkIt -- get a $81 file
corrupted error.

Could someone else try one of these BXY files and tell me if _I'm_ the one
who is messing up, or if the files are actually corrupted. Specifically,
I was trying the file "gus.8.paug.bxy", and "rtc,orca2.bxy".

Also, I remember the BQY suffix, but can't remember what program is needed
to unpack it. ShrinkIt doesn't seem to recognize it (at least as a Shrunk
file).

Thanks,
Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 31)

>>>>>
"""""
Using my Mac, I just verified that both of those files are fine. I
downloaded them via ftp with Transmit, moved them over to Bernie, and
unpacked them with GSHK. I was also able to unpack them with Shrink II.

Usually when people ask about corrupted files it turns out to be that they
were not getting an 8-bit ftp transfer. But if you're using an ftp client
on a Mac, as opposed to a Unix command-line client, that shouldn't be a
problem.

BQY files are older "Squeezed" archives created by BLU. GSHK can handle
them, as long as the files are not corrupted of course.

Tony Ward, A2 Librarian

(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 34)

>>>>>
"""""
Thanks for all who checked those RTC BXY files. It appears that the problem
I was having had to do with my FTP program (Transmit) being set to "ASCII"
mode, not Binary mode, when I did the download. I don't know enough about
why there is a difference (a file should be just a file, as far as I'm
concerned), but when I unchecked the ASCII setting, and downloaded the file
again, it was able to be unpacked.

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 36)

>>>>>
"""""
>> a file should be just a file, as far as I'm concerned <<

The problem is that files often *aren't* files when it comes to cross
platform differences. The benefit of ASCII mode transfers is that ftp fixes
the line endings for text files: Apple=<CR>, Unix=<LF>, Windows=<CR><LF>.

I believe many modern ftp clients are moving towards making BINARY mode the
default, which is probably more useful for most people. (And *really* smart
programs try to decide on the file type themselves! ASCII text is pretty
easy to detect.)

Peter               peterw@syndicomm.com
Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager

(PETERW, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 37)
[EOA]


[PSA]
PHONE SYSTEMS ALIKE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I was curious about phone systems.  Are phone systems in Japan(or anywhere
else) for instance, pretty much the same as in the U.S.  In other words,
could you use the same modem in another country that you could use in your
own?  Just curious.

Thanks,
Dain

(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 12)

>>>>>
"""""
Technically, probably. Legally, maybe not. Some countries have regulations
that our modems do not meet. For instance, repeat dialing is forbidden in
some countries, and modems there don't support the feature. Of course, most
of us do that with software, but that would still be illegal in some
countries.

 Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat  7 Sep 02  12:48:00 am
 cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
 KFest 2003, July 22-27, 2003 - 319 days till KFest
 On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
 A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com

(CARLK, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 13)

>>>>>
"""""
Carl has described it exactly. A 56k modem will work in any country, and
you can take your PowerBook with you when you go.

In the early days of 300 baud, for those that remember, there were
differences in the tones used, but now they have been harmonized.

Repeat dialing has to be controlled in the UK. You can dial the same number
again at once, but thereafter, an increasing interval between dialing must
be applied.

As 240 volts power is used in most other countries, modems have to conform
to strict safety regulations so they cannot send 240 volts down the phone
line. This means that in theory, all modems in the UK must be approved
before they are used.

 Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 7 Sep 2002 - 318 days till KFest '03
 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b8
 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/

(CONDUCTOR, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 14)
[EOA]


[MLG]
MEMORY LANE - THE OLD 8 BIT GAMES
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Just a stroll down memory lane.  The other day I pulled out some of my
5 1/4" floppies and started playing some old games I used to play on the
][e.  I had fun, but I realized that I am not nearly as good at Short
Circuit and Hard Hat Mack as I used to be.  For some reason though, I am
just as good today at Spy's Demise as I was back then:)

With all the whizbang flashy graphics of today's 128bit graphics chips and
Gigaflop computing power...it amazes one to think how far we've come, and
to realize that these old games are just as fun today as they were then.
Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chip were
simply amazing.

Dain Neater

(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 54)

>>>>>
"""""
>> Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chip
were simply amazing. <<

Not to mention the 32K or so of RAM, and the 140K of storage space, and the
1 MHz CPU speed. . . really just absolutely amazing.

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 55)

>>>>>
"""""
One of my favorite games was Miner 2049er, both part 1 and 2.  I played
those on my ][ Plus until the original disks were dead :)

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 57)

>>>>>
"""""
Ultima, Lode Runner, Apple Panic, SSI Baseball, Choplifter, Castle
Wolfenstein, ..... (the list goes on and on)

Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT

(MARK, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 59)

>>>>>
"""""
Miner 2049er was a great game.  Kind of in the same genre as Lode Runner
and the early Mario games.  Run around and jump from level to level doing
stuff.
:)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 61)

>>>>>
"""""
It also sounds a lot like Hard Hat Mack:)  I had lots of fun with these
8 bitters:)

Dain

(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 63)

>>>>>
"""""
Seriously though, a lot of those games were very similar, but they were a
lot of fun, too.  Lode Runner was great, although I had more fun with the
level designer than playing the game itself. :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 65)

>>>>>
"""""
Yeah, the Lode Runner Level editor was one of the coolest features ever.
I would think it was one of the first games that shipped with a level
editor.

Cool stuff.

Dain

(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 66)
[EOA]


[JSA]
JOYSTICKS FOR THE Apple II
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I recently was given an Apple II joystick that I really like.  It is a
CH Products (same brand as my Thrustmaster Pro that I use for X-Plane)
stick with a two buttons in the upper left hand corner and one actually on
the stick.  I really like this stick.  Were there any others that were
better?  Of course you are talking to the guy who at one point played
Joystick games with paddles, because that was all he had:).

I also had a stick that could be used on both the PC and II.  It's in a box
somewhere and I have no clue what it actually is...I think maybe a Kraft.

Dain Neater

(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 6)

>>>>>
"""""
Dain,

I have three of that model CH Products joystick, one on each of my Apples
(IIe, GS ROM 1, GS ROM 3), as well as one that I installed on my Dad's
machine.  I tried one or two other brands long ago but, I like this one the
best!

                                 MT Steve

(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 7)

>>>>>
"""""
I have a Mach IV, which can serve as either a mouse (attached to a IIc/IIc
Plus mouse port or a IIe mouse card) or a joystick (attached to the same
place on a IIc/IIc Plus or a IIe or IIgs nine pin joystick port).  I like a
real mouse better, but it's amazing how huge and clunky the original Mouse
II (the same, basically, as the Mac through Plus and Lisa mouse) feels
nowadays.

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 10)

>>>>>
"""""
Kraft also made a "mousestick" that may have actually been called the
MouseStick.  I vaguely remember this one.

Ryan

(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 11)

>>>>>
"""""
Yes, that's what it was called.  I remember it.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 12)
[EOA]


[MFC]
ANY 8 BIT GAMES THAT USED A MOUSE FOR CONTROLS?
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I know mice were used in games on the Apple IIgs, but were there every any
instances of the 8 bit machines using a mouse for controls in a game?
I can't think of any, and the number of people with mice on those older
machines was prohibitive to the developers.  Not to mention the fact that
to you had to push that IIe mouse button down about 5 inches for a click.
(okay, maybe that was an exaggeration:)

Dain Neater

(A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 1)

>>>>>
"""""
I'm not much of a gamer, but I can't remember any games where mice were
substitutes for joysticks.

Ryan

(A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 2)

>>>>>
"""""
Marble Madness -- mouse control was a lot better than joystick.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 3)

>>>>>
"""""
I believe some of those softdisk 8 bit games would support a mouse.  Didn't
we show than the solitaire would use a mouse (in my case a trackball)?
I wasn't using a joystick though that might have worked too.

I think some the other arcade type games could use a mouse but I'm not
sure.

Bruce

(BBAKER, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 4)
[EOA]


[TDD]
3.5" DISK DRIVES ON THE IIe
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Re:  3.5" disk drives for Apple IIe

Someone asked me whether they could read & write 3.5" floppies with an
Apple IIe.  A friend told me that one could use the same 3.5" floppy drives
for the IIe as I user for my Apple IIgs, but that I had to use it with a
controller like the UDC.  The model no. on the bottom of my Apple 3.5" disk
drive is A9M0106.  I am unacquainted with any such controller.  Does one
just get a UDC controller and plug it in between the disk drive and the
Apple IIe?  How does this work and where could one acquire a controller and
any necessary cables?  Does anyone have a different solution?

                                Jim O'Reilly

(JOREILLY, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 12)

>>>>>
"""""
Jim,

An Apple disk drive model A9M0106 is an Apple 3.5 Disk Drive.  In order for
this drive to be usable on an Apple IIe you would need a Superdrive
Controller.  Last I heard Superdrive cards were available from Shreve
Systems for $59.  They can be contacted at 1-800-227-3971.

Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT

(MARK, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 13)
[EOA]


[ILD]
INSTALLATION OF LARGER DRIVE ON FOCUS CARD - PROBLEM SOLVED
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Installed larger drive on Focus Card (used).  Focus utilities indicated
that "You must format (low level format) this drive before doing anything
else."

----
Apple Computer Inc.
Internal HDD Firmware (C)1995
750MB 2.5 inch AT 17mm
IBM OEM LES E33252 S
Model : DPRA-20810
P/N   : 85G3645   FRU : 39H2206
MLC   : E15644
----

After starting the low level format this message comes up:

An error has occurred during the format of you FocusDrive.
           (Error: #8080, Track 0, Head 0)
      (Continue)                      (Cancel)

If you choose (Continue) this message comes up:

Currently formatting;
Head #0, Cylinder #0
 Final Cylinder #0

It then sits there for hours without making any progress.

Any way around this?

Or is this drive simply not going to work with the Focus card?

Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_
published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/

(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 5)

>>>>>
"""""
A Google search for the drive in question revealed that the drive was set
up as a "slave".  Adding a jumper between two pins converts it to a
"master".

The 750mb drive is now set up with six 32mb ProDOS partitions and one large
HFS partition.

Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_
published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/

(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 8)

>>>>>
"""""
A long time ago at KFest, someone had a problem with a hard drive on a
Focus card that related to the jumper being set to slave.

So I guess that the moral of the story is that when using a Focus, set the
drive to master :)

Ryan

(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 10)
[EOA]


[MAS]
MORE THAN ADEQUATE STORAGE FOR THE IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I recently took the 6 GB drive that came built into my PowerBook G3 and
installed it in my Focus Drive because the drive that came preinstalled in
the card started doing weird stuff.  Works like a charm.  Don't recall the
brand though.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 6)

>>>>>
"""""
So, you've unseated Dain as having the largest known Focus Drive in
captivity?
:)

Maybe we should run a contest. . .

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 11)

>>>>>
"""""
I've been told that having 4GB hooked up to a IIgs is ludicrous.  Of
course, that would just mean that Sheppy is 2GBs more ludicrous than I.

Dain

Slowly handing over the Ludicrous Crown to King Sheppy.

(A2.DAIN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 12)

>>>>>
"""""
I'm extremely ludicrous.  Having multiple 2 GB HFS partitions on your GS is
stupid. :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 13)

>>>>>
"""""
Six gigs of storage on a GS is pretty excessive.  I don't think there is
much of a way to do it without some large HFS partitions.  While I'm not
much of a fan of HFS on the IIgs, the alternative is (doing some math). . .
187 ProDOS partitions? :)

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 14)
[EOA]


[MFT]
MOVING FILES FROM A2 FLOPPY DISKS TO iMac or PowerBook
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
... actually I wanted to ask questions about LanceGS, as I _really_ need a
way to get files off of Apple II floppy disks into my iMac or PowerBook.
I _think_ the LanceGS card may be helpful, but I've read the FAQ and it
says that I cannot use it with AppleTalk, that an FTP program is needed to
move files.

Someone in a Chat a while ago suggested that it would be less expensive to
get an old Mac, LocalTalk the IIGS to the Mac, and then Ethernet the Mac to
my home network.

My PRIMARY need is to get files off of Apple II disks and onto the Mac, and
also to be able to move files from the Mac (Bernie) onto the IIGS. I really
don't have a need to access the Net from the IIGS.

I want the least expensive option I can get. If, for example, there is some
option that would work with a mass storage device, that would also be
acceptable.

I've tried to put the SCSI drive I use on the IIGS on a SCSI<-->USB
converter, and the Mac does not see it. I believe I had problems before
with the Mac recognizing RamFAST partitioning.

Any help would be gratefully accepted.

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 55)

>>>>>
"""""
My recommendation would be to get a cheap older Mac that has both a serial
port and an Ethernet port, so that you can do LocalTalk between the GS and
the Mac, and then again to other machines.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 56)

>>>>>
"""""
I agree with Sheppy.  The LANceGS card is great for TCP/IP applications,
but if you want to move files, a Mac with both LocalTalk and ethernet ports
(you could likely get one at a local thrift store or off someone's garage
shelf for free or close to it) running LocalTalk Bridge software (free)
would be the cheapest way to go.

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 57)

>>>>>
"""""
I was thinking that the Mac/LocalTalk/Ethernet option might be the least
expensive.

Now, I still have an Ethernet card that worked in the Performa 5215 we got
rid of a year or more ago (yeah, a stupid idea now in retrospect). Anyone
know what other Macs have the same port for a card as the 5215 had?

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 58)

>>>>>
"""""
I found an old Mac LC 475 at the kid's school that was not being used, and
they were more than happy to give it to me. I put my Ethernet card (Asante)
in it, but have not yet been able to get it to work. I think I'll need to
borrow a CD-ROM drive from them also, so I can re-install the Mac OS 7.6.1
that is on it.

IIGS file-sharing connectivity is getting closer...

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 62)

>>>>>
"""""
Steve,

Let's move the LocalTalk discussion to cat 10, topic 6. :)

(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 63)

>>>>>
"""""
Make sure to download LocalTalk Bridge from Apple's FTP site too :)

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 31)

>>>>>
"""""
I found the LocalTalk bridge software. I read the "ReadMe" file included.
This allows me to have a connection with BOTH a LocalTalk AND an Ethernet
network?

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 32)

>>>>>
"""""
Right.  It lets your Mac running LTB serve as a bridge between a LocalTalk
network and an EtherTalk network, so the machines on each side can see each
other.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 33)

>>>>>
"""""
Okay.

I've got the Mac LC 475 with LocalTalk bridge working, and the IIGS can
send files to that computer, and from there I can send them to my OS X
iMac.

The goofy thing is that I cannot "see" the iMac from the LC 475. To connect
(I've got OS 8.1 loaded there) I have to type the IP address of the OX X
iMac. The IIGS cannot "see" anything except the LC 475.

The LocalTalk bridge is activated on the LC 475. It doesn't specify WHICH
serial port is being used for LocalTalk, but it wouldn't work unless I had
it plugged into the Printer port on the LC 475.

I'm using the Printer port on the IIGS, and so have slot 1 set to
"AppleTalk" (since my RamFAST is in slot 7).

This works, but did you say it should be possible to "see" the iMac from
the IIGS? Or does OS X make that more difficult?

Getting there... :-)

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 35)

>>>>>
"""""
Hi Steven,

If you want the GS to see everything on the ethernet side of the 475,
you'll need to go to the 475 and make sure the AppleTalk network there is
set to the ethernet network.

Then both your 475 and the GS should see the iMac.

Hope that helps!

Kirk
A2 RTC Manager

(A2.KIRK, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 37)

>>>>>
"""""
The Saga Continues...

I've turned on AppleTalk via the NetInfo Manager in OS X (although the
SharePoints program that the link Sheppy mentioned in a previous message
(http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/osx.html) would have done it more
easily), and now the IIGS can "see" the OS X Mac. However, it does not
allow me to login as anything other than a guest. I was able to see the
folders that I shared using SharePoint, and although I was able to copy a
file from the OS X Mac to the IIGS, an attempt to copy files from the IIGS
to the Mac resulted in an error message, probably because it is logged on
only as a guest.

We're getting there; any suggestions for better IIGS --> Mac file copying?
I can always copy files in two steps, from the IIGS --> Mac LC --> iMac if
the IIGS simply cannot logon in any fashion other than as a guest.

Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
Apple II History
http://apple2history.org

(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 38)

>>>>>
"""""
Give "guest" privileges to write to the iMac drive. (This is a Bad Thing
unless you are sitting behind a firewall, but okay to do just while you are
working on it.)

Gary

(HINDMOST, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 39)
[EOA]


[PUF]
SPECULATING ON POTENTIAL USES OF THE EMULATOR, FLORENCE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Richard Bennnet-Forrest unveiled Florence, his Java-based Apple IIgs
emulator at KansasFest 2002 in a videotaped presentation.

Florence is still in its infancy, but the web page can be found off of
http://www.emulate.gs/

This idea has lots of potential, including the ability to run an Apple IIgs
on almost any device, including cell phones and refrigerators. :)

Ryan
Chief Sysop

(A2.RYAN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 1)

>>>>>
"""""
I especially see value for this when Palm OS devices with ARM processors
and Java become available.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 2)

>>>>>
"""""
I really like this idea.  Regardless of what the speed of Java is.  Things
can only improve:)

I think the TCP/IP functionality is the part that I long to see the most.
Woohoo:)

Dain Neater

(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 3)

>>>>>
"""""
I had totally forgotten about Palm OS Java devices (and as the former chief
sysop of the Palm Forum, I hang my head in shame).

I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,
although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.
I'm not sure what other Java using devices besides these, cellular phones,
and desktop and laptop computers there are out there right now, but I'd
like to know :)

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 4)

>>>>>
"""""
>> I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,
although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.

Ahead?  It's running Windows, not Futuristic Super OS. :)

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 5)

>>>>>
"""""
By "ahead of its time", I mean that the hardware that can sufficiently run
such an albatross in a small package is not yet here.

Maybe in five years. . .

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 6)

>>>>>
"""""
The PocketPC platform runs a ~200mhz strong arm, just like the Newtons,
only I think that the Newton OS, was quite a bit smaller.  It would be cool
to have a Pocket IIGS regardless of what it is running on:)

Dain

(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 7)

>>>>>
"""""
I am in the market for a better cellular phone that has Java capability
specifically for Florence.

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 8)

>>>>>
"""""
It is my understanding that cell phones will only use the J2EE specs for
Java which is essentially a trimmed-down version of Java.  You will also to
make sure the cell phone has lots of RAM to run Java code, especially
something as intensive as a GS emulator.

I think it may be a few years before there is a portable device to be run
Florence.  But, I'll be pleasant surprised if there is hardware available
today and is moderately priced.

Geoff

(GEOFF, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 9)

>>>>>
"""""
How much memory, I wonder, would be needed?

I'm thinking a Palm OS 5 device with Java (when it's available, I have no
idea when that will be, I read the same press releases as everyone else :)
and 16 MB of memory might be able to do it.

Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com
                     Building communities, bit by bit.

(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 10)

>>>>>
"""""
I would think a 16 meg Java device would have enough memory for a nice IIgs
emulation, but disk space would be tight.

Of course, I'm also someone who would love to see a IIe emulator on the
Palm.

Ryan

(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 11)
[EOA]


[FJR]
FLORENCE JAVA REQUIREMENTS
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Richard,

Could you expound a little more on the Florence Java requirements?  I'm
semi-seriously looking into cellular phones.  I could wait for a long time
to buy, though, if they're not yet up to snuff.

Ryan
Chief Sysop and Head Geek

(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 20)

>>>>>
"""""
Well, I'm quite embarrassed to say that I'm not really sure what devices
and configurations would run Florence.

I wrote it for JRE 1.3 if that helps, so anything from JSE 1.3 up is fine
(Java Standard Edition 1.3, Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.3, Java Standard
Edition 1.4 etc.)

A bit of background perhaps, because Sun has way too many conflicting
acronyms to remember, unless you work with this stuff on a daily basis.

JRE stands for Java Runtime Environment. This includes the JVM (Java
Virtual Machine) which runs the core language syntax (for/next loops,
variable management etc.), plus a whole heap of Java code (libraries). Most
new Java versions don't change the JVM, which means the core language
pretty much stays the same. What each version does add, is more and more
Java code that makes complex programming easier.

This is a good thing, because it means the 10 lines of code you had to
write for the previous version, comes down to only a few lines of code in
the new version.

Florence doesn't use anything complex within Java, just the basic language
syntax and a few graphics routines. Again, because I haven't tuned it for
performance, it's very compatible across platforms and JRE versions,
because it doesn't really use much outside the basic JVM.

Therefore, if a device did come out that didn't support the full 1.3.1,
then it would more than likely still work, and if not, shouldn't be too
much of a change to get Florence to get it to work (i.e. I'd just have to
write those 10 lines instead of 1 :-).

The only real concern I would have for small device is speed. As my
upcoming Juiced.GS article explains (blatant plug!), it is slow on the
fastest Macs, let alone on a handheld. But you can read up on that when the
magazine comes out. :-)

What I am really waiting for is the Java Games Platform, or whatever the
latest acronym is. This is supposed to be super fast, and tuned for
graphics performance. The reason Florence is so slow, is mainly because of
Java's graphics libraries. They're built to support multiple platforms, so
they're not entirely high performance technology!

Regards,
 Richard

(RICHARDB, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 21)
[EOA]


[FTA]
FILE TYPE ASSIGNMENT - Adobe Acrobat DOCUMENT
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
For future reference:

Major Category
==============
Filetype          Category
--------          --------
$54               Desktop Publishing

Specific Assignment
===================
Filetype          Auxiliary Type          Finder Name
--------          --------------          -----------
$54               $0080                   Adobe Acrobat document

Ryan

(A2.RYAN, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 28)
[EOA]



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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[TSU]
TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to
sign up!

(Logon message)
[EOA]



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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[NAT]
NEW TO THE Apple II - HAVE QUESTIONS
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hi,
I am new to the Apple community. I am a classic computer and video game
collector. Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That was
the first system I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got a
Commodore 64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( Today I just
won an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious to start using it once
it arrives. I have some questions and hope some of you might be able to
answer them.

1. I have many Apple II images on my PC network. I want to be able to
transfer those images back to Apple IIgs floppies. I'm currently looking
for the best way to accomplish this.

I've read about the PC Transporter and the Bluedisk card, but recently I
stumbled upon an item called a Super Disk. Can anyone out there tell me:

1a. What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? Do I
need some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any special
type I need?

1b. I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in one
location that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site it
seems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.

Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer the apple
images from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know about the
null modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC in the
same room as my classic systems.

2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives I need
to get to install on my IIgs? Also, do I need special brackets to mount it
inside the unit or do external SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs?

2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I had an
old hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if there may be a
SCSI hard card for the IIgs?

3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that will work
with the IIgs?

4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games?

Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer some of
my questions. :)

My email address is discmaster1@soznet.net

Thanks

(DISCMASTER1, 3612.1, Delphi A2 web side)

>>>>>
"""""
>> I am new to the Apple community. <<

Welcome! Incidentally you should know there's not much Apple II activity
remaining here on Delphi. You can find most of us either on Usenet's
comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup (free) or Syndicomm's A2Central forum (pay
service). In the meantime, you can still find some help here, though you
may find it sparse.

>> I am a classic computer and video game collector. <<

I've mostly collected vintage Apple systems, though in the last few years I
started collecting other computers and game consoles too (heh, as a matter
of fact, just this afternoon I picked up a ColecoVision and Intellivision
by chance).

>> Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That was the first
system I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got a Commodore
64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( <<

Funny, I had mostly the same start but with the opposite outcome. I ended
up with an Apple II Plus just before junior high school and missed out on
the Commodore 64 (I don't _at all_ regret the path I took starting out with
the Apple II, but I recently sought out a working C64 and meaning to
explore what I missed out on).

>> Today I just won an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious to
start using it once it arrives. I have some questions and hope some of you
might be able to answer them. <<

You should know while the IIgs is backwards compatible with the 8-bit
Apple II in emulation-mode (which works quite transparently as you'll soon
see) it has a native side that makes it very similar to the Amiga. That
reminds me of another machine I'd like to go back and explore, I have some
A500's and 2000's in various states sitting around here but missing a piece
or two to get them running. Anyhow, I'm seem to be digressing from your
questions, so....

>> A) What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? Do
I need some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any special
type I need? <<

You must mean the "SuperDrive" option. It's merely an external 1.44MB
floppy drive setup that can handle both GCR (Apple) and MFM (DOS/Windows)
formatted 3.5 diskettes.

You can use an official Apple SuperDrive or some of the third party
compatibles out there (i.e. Applied Engineering, AMR). A popular option is
to take the standard Apple 3.5 drive and swap the 800K mechanism with a
1.44MB one pulled from an old Macintosh--it's a pretty trivial upgrade
requiring only a screwdriver really. I have two "SuperDrives" which are
merely standard Apple 3.5 drives I self-upgraded.

The catch is, yes, you'll need an add-on card so the IIgs can recognize it
as a high-density drive and read/write IBM floppies. The card is called the
"Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card". They're not very common but Sherves
Systems was selling them not too long ago.

>> B) I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in one
location that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site it
seems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.

It's neither exactly. It's a 50-pin slot card that plugs into the Apple II
(II Plus, IIe and IIgs) and hardware emulates an IBM XT class PC.
Specifically a fast 8086-compatible (NEC V30) with 640K, CGA and support
for PC-MFM drives--or even allow a standard Apple 800K drive to read/write
720K MFM floppies in IBM mode if attached to the PC-Transporter. It'll also
work with the SuperDrive if you have that special controller card, but at
that point you're better off using GS/OS's built-in MSDOS FST (File System
Translator; an FST lets the IIgs's OS see foreign formatted devices as if
they were Apple formatted).
 
>> Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer the
apple images from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know about
the null modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC in
the same room as my classic systems. <<

I personally prefer the SuperDrive option. I just use my PIII to download
disk-images or files onto floppy, then pop the disk into my GS and it reads
it just like that. It's a god-send considering I no longer have my IIgs
connected to the Internet.

I had only used a null-modem hook up for transferring files larger than
1.4M (it works nicely actually since the GS can handle 57.6K through the
serial port) though these days I use an IOmega Zip disk (I have an external
Zip on the GS, and an internal on a P133 in another room). Ethernet is
another option as of recently, but the card is rather expensive.

Oh, if you have a Macintosh in your collection, you can use that as a
bridge between a IIgs and PC for floppy transfers (MSDOS->HFS->ProDOS).
Older Macintosh machines can read 1.44MB MSDOS and write to 800K ProDOS
disks. They can also do AppleTalk networking with the IIgs (i.e.
PC/Ethernet->Mac/Ethernet-Mac/AppleTalk->GS/AppleTalk)

>> 2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives I
need to get to install on my IIgs? <<

No, most SCSI drives should work fine (I'd just recommend at least a 4500
RPM drive).

What you do need to seek out specifically is an Apple II SCSI-based slot
card. Apple made two (one DMA, one non-DMA) and even more popular is the
"RamFAST SCSI" controller. Unfortunately these cards are in high demand
among users so it may be pricey to get a hold of one.

>> Also, do I need special brackets to mount it inside the unit or do
external SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs? <<

External SCSI drives have always been more common for the IIgs and what
you'd be likely to use. There WERE internal drive setups though, in fact
the IIgs sitting beside me has a 240MB drive mounted internally using a
product called the Pegasus (another rarity). I've been meaning to replace
the mechanism with a 1.2GB since the older 240 drive seems to be failing
and a bit small for my own needs.

>> 2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I had
an old hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if <<

Yep. There are two IDE-based HardCards, one sold in the US (Alltech) and
the other sold in Europe (SHH Systemes). I believe the Alltech Focus
HardCard is more affordable, have a look at: www.allelec.com

>> there may be a SCSI hard card for the IIgs? <<

No, but there was the RoadRunner card. It let you mount a 3.5 SCSI drive on
a slot card that then connected to a standard SCSI controller (Apple or
RamFAST) in an adjacent slot. It was the same concept as using an external
SCSI drive, except the drive drew its power from the GS's powersupply and
lived inside the case. A sort of pseudo HardCard I suppose.

>> 3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that will
work with the IIgs? <<

Several work will work (a parallel card may be required if it doesn't
support serial) though you'd definitely want a software driver package
called "Harmonie". A couple of years back I successfully had the GS
printing off my brother's Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5L printer. The IIgs
also supports TrueType font technology with a package called "Pointless".

I believe Shareware Solutions II carries both pieces of software.

>> 4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games? <<

It's a matter of choice. My favorite is the CH Products Mach III joystick.
I have several others (e.g. Epyx, Gravis, Apple) and I can't say I ever
liked those much. The official Apple-brand joystick is quite awful in many
respects btw, avoid it if possible.

Speaking of games, you may want to visit the Apple IIGS Gaming Memory
Fairway (http://www.inwards.com/~fairway). As usual, I should state my
disclaimer that I feel the site is valuable as an Apple IIgs museum
(memorabilia, screen shots, reviews, articles) rather than a software
archive site. I've spent a good number of hours just reading reviews and
getting nostalgic looking at scanned GS advertisements. :)

If you're new to the IIgs and wondering what the machine was all about,
I can't think of anything more perfect to read than Alex Lee's commentary
on the IIgs: http://www.inwards.com/~fairway/intro.html

Another two must-visit sites as far as the IIgs is concerned btw:
www.a2central.com
www.ninjaforce.com

>> Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer some
of my questions. :) <<

Let me know if you have any more... :)

Mitchell Spector
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca

(SPECTOR1, 3612.3, Delphi A2 web side)
[EOA]



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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[CTS]
ANNOUNCING - CRYPTO TOOL SET
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Announcing - Crypto tool set version 1.0 System Tool 129.

Now available from my website:
http://home.ozonline.com.au/klajr/apple/crypto.html

The Vision:
A tool set that provides a library of encryption and decryption functions
using a variety of algorithms.

Version 1.0 desCipher - DES encryption and decryption
The DES cipher routines were implemented by Robert V. Medshaw.
desAddParity - adds parity bits to a 56-bit key

The source code for the tool set has been released under the GNU Lesser
General Public License so that others can contribute to the development of
the tool set. The source code for the tool set has been made available in
CVS as part of the Marinetti Open Source Project.

The DES cipher routines have not been placed in CVS for two reasons:
1) as they are Copyright 1979 BYTE Magazine
2) US Government Export restrictions may apply

Downloads available:
* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set & programmer documentation
* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set with complete source code including DES cipher
  routines (Merlin assembler)
* Apple II/e/c version of DES cipher routines (Merlin assembler)

(ROUGHANA, 418.2, Delphi A2Pro web side)
[EOA]



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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>

[YAI]
YOU ARE INVITED
"""""""""""""""
You are invited to submit your favorite Tinkerer's Project for the Apple II
computers.

Send your write up or idea to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>

The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.

The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
[EOA]


[CDD]
Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By Lyle Syverson

A lot of software for the Apple II is now available on CD ROM.  One way to
get this software to your computer is to equip your IIgs with a CD ROM
drive.

This project is made easier by the fact that there really is a lot of
standardization of the necessary connections among the various SCSI drives
and the enclosures.  The power connectors and the SCSI cable connectors are
designed so the can only be connected one way.

What You Will Need
''''''''''''''''''
1. An enclosure (case).  The ideal one has a built in power supply and
cooling fan.  The front of the CD ROM mechanism will need to be accessible
to the outside of the case.  Depending on the enclosure available, this
might require some ingenuity.  The old SyQuest 44 and 88 removable media
drives are an excellent source of an enclosure for this project.  After the
SyQuest mechanism has been removed the CD ROM mechanism can be neatly
mounted flush with the front of the case.

2. The CD ROM drive mechanism.  These can be found in some of the older,
unwanted Mac computers.

3. SCSI cables.  One to connect the SCSI card in your computer to the
connector on the enclosure.  Another one to connect the first case to the
second case if you plan to have more than one drive connected at the same
time.

4. A terminator might be necessary if there is no provision for termination
on the drive itself.

5. A SCSI card.

Where to Get What You Need
''''''''''''''''''''''''''
1. Thrift stores.

2. Garage sales.

3. Usenet... comp.sys.apple2.marketplace

4. A2 on Syndicomm

5. LEM-Swap list <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html>

6. Alltech Electronics <http://www.allelec.com/indexa2.html">

8. Other World Computer <http://www.macsales.com/">

9. Mac-Res-Q <http:/www.macresq.com> or call 1-888-447-3728

Installing the Drive in the Enclosure
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
1. Open the case.

2. Disconnect and remove the old drive.  Make notes of connections for the
   SCSI id control and the activity light.

3. Mount the new drive securely within the case.

4. Connect the power cable and the SCSI cable.  The connectors are built so
   can they only be connected one way.

5. Connect the SCSI id system if it will fit.  Otherwise set the SCSI id of
   the drive using jumpers.  (See the section on SCSI id).

6. Connect the activity light.  (The drive will work just fine even if you
   can not make this connection).

7. Close the case.

Using the 'New' CD ROM Drive
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
1. Using your System 6.01 installation disks...
    a. Install the CD ROM Driver.
    b. Install the HFS FST.
    c. Patch the HFS FST.   (Downloaded link:)
       http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/FSTs/PATCHHFS.SHK

2. Connect the drive to the SCSI card using the appropriate cable.

3. Boot your IIgs... your CD ROM drive is ready to use.

Rules For the SCSI Chain
''''''''''''''''''''''''
1. The chain must have term power.
     a. The RamFast SCSI card can provide term power by setting a switch.
     b. The Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards do not supply term power but can
        be modified to do so.
             To modify the Apple SCSI cards to provide term power see:
                  http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/hispeed.gif
                  http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/revc.gif
     c. Some drives supply term power to the SCSI chain.

2. Termination... The device (hard drive, CD ROM drive, etc.) at each end
   of the chain must be terminated.
     a. The RamFast and Apple HS SCSI cards are terminated.
     b. The Apple Rev.C card is not terminated.  It can be terminated by
        placing a 'pass through' terminator between the card and the first
        SCSI device.
     c. Some drives are terminated internally.  Some drives control
        internal termination with a jumper.  Some drives have a switch
        outside the case to turn termination on or off.  A drive that is
        not terminated internally can be terminated externally by
        installing a terminator on one of the SCSI connectors on the
        outside of the case.

3. NOTE... term power and termination are two different things.  Each must
   be dealt with separately according to the appropriate rule.

4. Each device in the chain must have a unique SCSI id.  SCSI id's range
   from 0 through 7.
     a. When using the Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards id 7 is reserved for
        the use of the card.
     b. The RamFast SCSI card operates without a SCSI id.

5. Setting the SCSI id of a hard drive or CD ROM drive.
     a. Most enclosures (cases) have a device outside the case to set the
        SCSI id of the drive.  If you are installing a drive in a new or
        used case you might or might not be able to properly connect the
        drive to the external id switch.
     b. If you can not properly connect the drive to this switch you can
        control the SCSI id of the drive using jumpers.  You can often find
        out how to do this for a given drive by visiting the web site of
        the manufacturer of that drive.
             See: "Controlling the SCSI ID of Hard Drive" in TLMP0201
             At: http://lamp.a2central.com/

Example SCSI Chain
''''''''''''''''''
Apple HS SCSI card    SCSI id=7   Terminated
SCSI cable
CD ROM drive          SCSI id=0   Not terminated
SCSI cable
Hard drive            SCSI id=6
External terminator               Terminates the hard drive

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[NLE]
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[LTE]
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                       KFest 2002 |
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[KFR]
KFest REMINDER
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There is a lot of kid in going to Kfest, no doubt.  I always bring projects
most of which I don't get done.  I wish it had rained earlier in the week,
so temperature would go down.  But not on Wednesday.  This was a warm year,
not truly hot.  There was one year when leaving the window open was great!
Not this year.

I have not written my review of Kfest yet, the muse has not struck.  Can
someone help me get started by reminding me of important facts?  I think
that might help me get of the dime.  Last year it just burning inside and I
could hardly keep it in.  This year the pictures were where most of my
energy went.  I still need to completely finish the spread, sadly.  I need
to get a new ftp program I guess.  <<sigh>>

Bruce

(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9)

>>>>>
"""""
Bruce,

Will start you off by reminding you how wonderful it is that we can all get
together and see each other every year at KFest:)  Everyone just assumes
KFest will happen every year. That is not so. KFest happens because there's
enough interest to make it happen and permit us to get together. In other
words, KFest happens because of those who attend/support KFest. It's still
the attendees that are responsible for KFest every year, although there are
incredible contributions by many that can't attend but want to add what
they can and be a part of the yearly gathering.

Like always, there were significant highlights (at least for me) besides
seeing everyone able to attend.  Among them:

1. Hmm. Number 1 again is the camaraderie and help from all who were able
   to attend. We always have one very special group at KFest!
2. Syndicomm support and the Softdisk announcement. Sheppy just seems to
   have more energy than I'll ever be able to muster in support of KFest.
3. A major highlight every year is the newbies and I wasn't disappointed to
   see the "new members" who attended this year! I know better than to feel
   they are newbies. They may be new to KFest but they've always been
   experienced users who have added to everyone's enjoyment, and hopefully
   will return in coming years to continue the sharing of information that
   is such a big part of KFest.
4. I'd like to mention Shawn Beattie once again. He's provided the
   projector for years now and has only been to ONE KFest:(  Maybe you
   could mention something in your review that would get him to attend next
   year:)
5. Ditto for Jerry Cline. Jerry couldn't make it this year and we missed
   him. Although he couldn't attend, he's done outstanding work for KFest
   again this year and was a tremendous help to all of us.
6. Not sure how you can fit this in, but Sean is a new Dad and we learned
   about that special event at KFest. Maybe you could handle that as I did
   and note how happy we all were to welcome a new addition to our "KFest
   Family":)  Somehow I think you understand what I mean and why that was
   an important event for us.
7. The BBQ! A thought that blossomed. Thanks to Ryan and Kirk, especially,
   for making this happen, and happen so well! It's probably going become
   a tradition at KFest after the wonderful experience we had this year.
   Will be difficult to relate to anyone who hasn't attended KFest, but a
   lot of the "allure" of KFest is hard to explain to anyone who hasn't
   been there and experienced it in person;)

Hope that gets you started:)  It's all "off the top of my head" and I
haven't mentioned all the wonderful contributions made by each and every
attendee this year.

Great KFest again; looking forward to next year,
Steve

(KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 11)
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[PFK]
PICTURES FROM KFest 2002
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OK, the almost final online edition of my photos of kfest is ready.
This is the final beta.  (Does that sound right?)

www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/kfest2002.html

captions, where there are some, are embedded in the alt tag so if you hold
the mouse over the picture the caption should appear.

This must be close to 100 pictures, I did not count.   Feel free to use
them with attribution.  Thanks.

Breaking most cameramen's rule, my picture actually does appear a few
times.  Of course I got to pose for my pictures, most of the rest of you
didn't get that advantage. hehehe  But most of you look natural and that is
nice, really.

Enjoy
Bruce Baker

(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 16)
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                       KFest 2003 |
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[PBT]
KFest 2003 - PLAN TO BE THERE!
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KansasFest 2003 is planned for July 22-27, 2003 at Avila University in
Kansas City, Missouri.

(Entrance banner, Cat 5, Top 5)
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