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           >>> WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE APPLE II ROUNDTABLE? <<<
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                             ~ March 1, 1995 ~


 FROM MY DESKTOP ......... [FRM]        HEY MISTER POSTMAN ...... [HEY]
  Notes From The Editor.                 Is That A Letter For Me?

 HUMOR ONLINE ............ [HUM]        REFLECTIONS ............. [REF]
  A Few Anagrams.                        Links Between School and Home.

 ASCII ART GALLERY ....... [ASA]        HARDVIEW A2 ............. [HAR]
  Musical Doodles.                       Networking with Etherplus.

 THE TREASURE HUNT ....... [HUN]        PAUG NEWSLETTER ......... [PNL]
  A Selection of RTC Transcripts.        January/February 1995 Report.

                     LOG OFF ................. [LOG]
                      GEnieLamp Information.

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READING GEnieLamp   GEnieLamp has incorporated a unique indexing system 
"""""""""""""""""   to help make reading the magazine easier.  To 
utilize this system, load GEnieLamp into any ASCII word processor or 
text editor.  In the index you will find the following example:

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     To read this article, set your find or search command to [HUM].  
If you want to scan all of the articles, search for [EOA].  [EOF] will 
take you to the last page, whereas [IDX] will bring you back to the 
index.

MESSAGE INFO   To make it easy for you to respond to messages 
""""""""""""   re-printed here in GEnieLamp, you will find all the 
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     In this example, to respond to Smith's message, log on to page 
475 enter the bulletin board and set CAT 6.  Enter your REPly in TOPic 
1.

     A message number that is surrounded by brackets indicates that 
this message is a "target" message and is referring to a "chain" of two 
or more messages that are following the same topic.  For example: {58}.

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"""""""""""   four hours of non-prime time access to most GEnie 
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          /  Less than a year ago, I read in WordPerfect Magazine a    /
         /  rave about some new featurs in one of their products.     /
        /  Seems you could have more than one file open at the same  /
       /  time, and wonder of wonders, highlight something in one   / 
      /  file and drag it onto another file!  They thought this    / 
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[EOA]
[FRM]//////////////////////////////
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Notes From The Editor
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by Douglas Cuff
    [EDITOR.A2]



                    >>> MUCH TOO LATE FOR GOODBYES <<<
                    """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

     Last month, ICON (formerly Resource Central) produced its final issue 
of A2-Central (formerly Open-Apple).  I was its editor.

     When I was interviewed for GEnieLamp A2 last month, I didn't know 
A2-Central was on its last legs.  I didn't even know the issue of 
A2-Central I was working on would be the last ever.  I didn't get a chance 
to say goodbye.  I can't say goodbye here and now, because many A2-Central 
readers lives in countries GEnie doesn't reach.

     I don't suppose it matters much.  There isn't much to say.  I would 
have liked to have told all those who stuck with A2-Central even after it 
dropped its paper version--and even all those who cancelled then--about its 
spiritual successor, Shareware Solutions II.  Even though there wasn't much 
to say, I wish someone had had the chance to say it.  No one should be put 
into the ground with too few words.

     A2-Central began its life in 1985 as an one-man, eight-page 
newsletter.  That one man was Tom Weishaar, and that newsletter was 
Open-Apple.  In 1989, Open-Apple metamorphosed into A2-Central to avoid the 
wrath of Cupertino, and that change brought with it A2-Central-On-Disk.  In 
1993, the paper version of A2-Central disappeared, and A2-Central-On-Disk 
dropped the "-On-Disk" from its name, since the newsletter was available in 
disk format only.

     At the start of 1994, I started writing for A2-Central.  By the 
middle of the same year, I had been appointed editor.  I was the sixth 
person to edit the newsletter with Uncle DOS, after Tom Weishaar (accept no 
substitutes), Dennis Doms (whose Internet series began in the final issue), 
Jay Jennings (for one issue only), Ellen Rosenberg (last editor of a paper 
version), and Dean Esmay (who had edited A2-Central-On-Disk since 1989).

     Now it's gone.  The little newsletter that was printed in 
"teeny-weeny-eyestrain-o-vision" (a phrase invented by Matt Groening for 
his _Life in Hell_ comic strip) on paper not much thicker than onionskin.  
The little newsletter that spawned a mail order company.  The little 
newsletter that spawned a dozen other disk magazines.  The little 
newsletter that many absent-mindedly referred to as a magazine.

     Happily, we are not gone.  Tom Weishaar has not passed to the Great 
Beyond, and the other editors--including myself, thank you--seem to be 
pretty hale and hearty.  More happily, you are not gone.  You're still out 
there, eager to find solutions with your Apple IIs, and still getting to 
know these great computers.  Even more happily, the Apple II is not gone.  
It's been 18 years since they first made one, and two years since they last 
made one, and the computer still is not gone.

     As those of us who loved Open-Apple in its various forms remember, it 
was ten years ago when Tom Weishaar open the first editorial of his 
newsletter with the sentence, "My banker says I'm crazy to start a 
newsletter about an eight-year old computer."

     You weren't crazy, Tom.  At least, you weren't any crazier than the 
thousands who subscribed over the years.

     Open-Apple (A2-Central).  1985-1995.  R.I.P.


-- Doug Cuff

GEnie Mail:  EDITOR.A2                  Internet:  editor.a2@genie.geis.com



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[EOA]
[HEY]//////////////////////////////
              HEY MISTER POSTMAN /
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Is That A Letter For Me?
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by Douglas Cuff
    [EDITOR.A2]

        o A2 POT-POURRI

                o HOT TOPICS

                        o WHAT'S NEW

                             o THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE

                                  o MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT



                           >>> A2 POT-POURRI <<<
                           """""""""""""""""""""

GRAPHICS CONVERSION WITH PRISM   All's well that ends well?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
     You decide...

     A few weeks ago, I posted a message about my recent experience with 
purchasing the graphics conversion program - Prism - from Other World 
Computing.

     All told, it took 6 weeks from the time I placed my phone call until 
Prism arrived. During those 6 weeks, it was a comedy of errors. I must have 
placed 10 phone calls to the 800 toll free number, and the witches' brew of 
excuses I heard were the most absurd I've ever heard in my life.

     The thing of it is...Prism is an excellent program that does a 
superior job in converting graphics. It's just too bad that it is not 
available from anyone other than Other World Computing. Dealing with them 
was nothing but toil and trouble.

Joe
                  (JOE.KOHN, CAT2, TOP20, MSG:235/M645;1)


MORE GRAPHICS CONVERSION   I'm a bit of a cross platform graphics 'nut' and
""""""""""""""""""""""""   I wannna tell you that, as much as I like 
Show.me's capabilities, I've had no success in saving or converting GIF's 
of more than 15 colors or 3200 color graphics of any kind at all.  My 
hardware is a ROM 3 GS, Appletalk in slot 1 (I've tried it without it, 
too), RamFast w/256k, 85 meg Quantum HD, 4 Meg CV tech Ram card, a 
Superdrive, 3 Unidisks and a 5.25 --and a 8MHz 16k Zip.

     I highly recommend Tim Meekins' ImageQuant (very alpha, but in the A2 
library) for those who are serious in the saving and editting of graphics 
on the II GS.  It is actually the second best (commercial programs 
included) universal converter of graphics that I have ever seen.  The best 
graphic converter program for the GS has not yet been released because of 
GS/OS conflicts but is the only program that I know of that can convert 
Aldus SuperPaint Documents from the MacIntosh to the IIGS.

     Look for TGM (Tim's Graphic Mangler) in late 1995.  Perhaps sooner if 
I get over this habit of being stupid :)

Tim K
                   (KELLERS, CAT6, TOP6, MSG:171/M645;1)


AMERICA ONLINE E-MAIL   There is something very very wrong with the America 
"""""""""""""""""""""   Online Internet e-mail gateway.

     I read in my local newspaper about problems that thousands of people 
are reporting when sending Internet e-mail to AOL addresses, and have 
actually tried a few experiments.

     I've sent e-mail to AOL that got cut off mid-sentence. I've sent 
e-mail to my former AOL address which was canceled on 11/1/94, and the 
e-mail never bounced. I've sent e-mail to non-existent AOL addresses which 
have taken 4 or 5 days to "bounce."

     In short, I don't think you're doing anything wrong.

Joe
                  (JOE.KOHN, CAT29, TOP6, MSG:376/M645;1)


SAY IT LOUD   As Public Relations Manager here I could use a little bit of 
"""""""""""   help from all of you..

     I am finding that when I make contacts with vendors, many of them 
don't realize how much of their business is generated by Apple II using 
customers, and even fewer realize that GEnie A2 is the center of the Apple 
II universe :)

     What I'm asking you to do is:
          When you order a computer product for your Apple II, tell the 
     sales person that's what it's for, and that it will work on Apple II's 
     :)
          [of course it's a good idea to tell them this after they've take 
     your order]...

     If you are ordering from a business you've seen recommended here in 
A2, be sure to tell them that the reason you are ordering from them is that 
they were recommend in the Apple II RoundTable on GEnie..  We may be able 
to encourage some vendors to acknowledge that they have Apple II products 
that they didn't even know they had :)

Doug.P  <------A2 Hardware Help and A2 Public Relations Manager
                   (DOUG.P, CAT3, TOP12, MSG:235/M645;1)


SHANGHAI TILES AND HIERARCHIC   I too have found that Hierachic causes 
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   problems with other programs - for 
instance, just recently when playing Shanghai I could not remove some of 
the tiles which were actually free.   

     Initially, I couldn't fathom out what the problem was, but after a 
process of elimination I found that with Hierarchic installed the problem 
was present, without it all was well.   Just to confirm it was no 
coincidence, I reinstalled/removed Hierarchic and rebooted several times - 
with the same results.

Pete Green (U.K)
                  (P.GREEN, CAT43, TOP15, MSG:206/M645;1)

  [My personal experience was that KANGAROO, which uses Hierarchic, was 
causing a problem with Shanghai, but that HIERARCHIC itself was blameless.  
                      Your mileage may vary. -- Ed.]


GLEN BREDON, WHERE ARE YOU?   Where is Glen?
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
     Glen retired at the end of the last school year and moved back to 
California.  He has a year-round place in the Sierra's at about the 3,000 
foot level and retreats to the summer cabin above the 7,000 foot level 
after the roads are cleared.

     I only recently finally unpacked his puter; but by now, his GEnie 
account has grown old with disuse and he could not log back on.  I should 
ask Syndicomm to find a way to get him back on, but never seem to 
remember....
                  (A2.CHUCK, CAT20, TOP2, MSG:223/M645;1)


                            >>> HOT TOPICS <<<
                            """"""""""""""""""

FAXINATION GETS COOL RECEPTION; WORK ONGOING   MAJOR PROBLEM ! with the 
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   FAXination NDA.  With it 
activated, any P8 program I use crashes on quitting it.  Doesn't matter if 
I launch the P8 program from the Finder or ProSel, as long as GSOS has 
loaded desk accessories, P8 programs such as AW classic or Print Shop 
leaves you in the monitor after quitting.  Anyone else experiencing this ? 
Later . . . . Dave Heyes
                  (D.HEYES1, CAT40, TOP2, MSG:206/M645;1)

>>>>>   There seem to be a number of concerns regarding the ProDOS 8
"""""   resource problem with FAXination.  Let me address those concerns 
now.

     First, the problem is related to the way FAXination makes use of the 
Resource Manager.

     Second, this problem is our top priority.  We expect to have a fix by 
Friday, 17 Feb. 1995.

     Third, the Vitesse BBS should be available by Friday, 17 Feb. 1995.  
The ProDOS fix will be made available at that time.

Lowell Erbe
Vitesse, Inc., Technical Support
                  (VITESSE, CAT40, TOP2, MSG:220/M645;1)

>>>>>   Well, I received Faxination today.  I too am a bit disappointed in
"""""   my initial results.  Setup was pretty easy, using Shadowwrite to 
enter a simple test message went smoothly and the Fax/printer driver works 
as in the manual.  However, when done creating the fax document nothing 
happens as I would expect it, but no lock up.  Going into the NDA and the 
Send Fax log section shows the document and accessing it works OK.  Viewing 
the fax document works well also.  But sending the fax is impossible.  When 
trying to get the fax sent the program accesses my modem, (a Supra Faxmodem 
14.4 V.32/42/mnp2-5, the one with the special alpha numeric LED matrix 
display, using the hardware handshaking cable from Intrec), the program 
sends an error message saying that it is unable to initialize the modem, 
retrying ends with the same result.   Canceling this causes the computer to 
lock up requiring a reboot.  The P8 crash is definitely a problem.  Trying 
to place the program into receive results with the same error message and 
lockup.  I can see that the program is attempting to send commands to my 
modem, the data lights are working and the modem is apparently responding, 
the LEDs display OK and the modem works fine afterwards with Proterm 3.1.

     I have tried setting different things in the control panel, DC 
printer and modem panel, nothing changes at all.

     At this time, I've worked with the program for several hours and 
since I am constantly forced to reboot the computer I have had no choice 
but to remove the program from my system.  I noticed that there might be a 
problem with corrupted disks and did a verify disk and validate files with 
no errors.

     At this stage I am VERY disappointed, and will be waiting for initial 
bug fixed from Vitesse which I hope will be coming VERY soon!

TRON - Life is too short, don't RUSH it, think for yourself!

                  (T.R.ONAN, CAT40, TOP2, MSG:224/M645;1)

>>>>>   To all FAXi owners
"""""
     I've had mine about four days now.  Don't get discouraged.  I am 
personally grateful that Vitesse and Mr. McQueen got it this far, against 
the odds!  

     FAXi is [understatement mode ON] a wee bit premature [understatement 
mode OFF], but Vitesse will get it there.

     Three things to remember:

     1.  The alternative was no program.

     2.  Part of the reason FAXi got pushed out the door so soon was all 
of us clamoring for it...

     3.  If FAXi was perfect, what would we complain about? You should see 
the email that I've been sending!  At least it keeps me off the streets!

Mike ("Maj") Murley
                 (M.MURLEY3, CAT40, TOP2, MSG:231/M645;1)

>>>>>   I just (finally!) got some time to get online again and check out
"""""   the messages here. There were way too many for me to read now, but 
I have them in scrollback and will read them shortly. Thanks for the 
tremendous interest in FAXination! Thanks also for the patience of those of 
you who have not returned your programs in disgust! :)

     Many of the problems seem to have come from my attempt to generate a 
"universal" init procedure, which now works most of the time. Perhaps it is 
time for me to give up and just ask for an init string from the user, even 
though the object of the game is to NOT require you to go searching through 
your modem manuals for the correct command sequence!

     Other problems arise from the BBS itself. The board uses the Metal 
BBS program, a public domain Apple II BBS system. It may take a bit of 
gettng used to, but is really quite simple once you understand where you 
need to go. Just follow the menus, and when in doubt hit the ? key, and you 
should be alright. Most of you have predefined user accounts, which you can 
find and customize by entering your invoice number when the system asks for 
your name or handle. If that doesn't work, follow the instructions for 
applying for a NEW account, and I will validate you within a day. I check 
for new applications once or twice daily, when I have time. (usually late 
at night. :)

     When logging on to the Vitesse, Inc. BBS, the System News will be 
used to advertise when a new copy of FAXination becomes available. As 
requested, I will also post a message here to let GEnie users know about 
it, too.

     We are now testing a copy which appears to handle sending and 
receiving pretty well, and has had its init procedure upgraded to  
accommodate more modems. I am also correcting the AWGS printing bug, which 
will probably take another day. As soon as these changes are checked out, 
we will be releasing them.

     Thanks again for your patience, and your comments. And please bear 
with me, I'm making mistakes as fast as I can! :)

Da Programmer (aka Sysop) ((Sheesh! When will I learn?))
                 (S.MCQUEEN1, CAT40, TOP2, MSG:297/M645;1)


SPECTRUM 2.0 PREFS CONVERT BUG STOMPED   EVERYONE -- Ewen has found the 
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   problem with Prefs.Convert. 
Depending upon the particular conversion route (what errors may have 
occured, etc.) it was possible for the Prefs.Convert program to close _all_ 
resource files, instead of just the ones it had opened. This causes the 
system to crash as soon as anyone needs access to a resource (typically the 
very next screen update)!

     The good news is if this crash occurs, the converted 
"Spectrum2.Prefs" file will already be complete, except for any previous 
passwords. So, if a crash does occur while using Prefs.Convert, just 
restart the computer, then double- click the "Install" icon to finish off 
the installation.

     NOTE: This discovery means I do NOT need any old "Spectrum.Prefs" 
files to examine, so don't bother xmailing if you haven't yet.

Thanks, --Dave
                (SEVENHILLS, CAT43, TOP15, MSG:164/M645;1)


APPLEWORKS 5 DB AUTO-SORT CRASH   Anybody else having crashes that seem to 
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   be related to either auto-sorting or 
category totals in the data base?  Sometimes into the monitor.

     My problem has not been consistent, might be tied in with the print 
buffer, went away, and came back.

     Sorry this is so sketchy, but I couldn't figure anything out, except 
for what I just said.

Ray
    (the Sauer Kraut)
                (R.SCHUERGER1, CAT17, TOP31, MSG:35/M645;1)

>>>>>   A crash with auto-sorting does occur on the second auto-sort after
"""""   a text file has been loaded and saved, or some such very weird 
combo.  I'll certainly try to fix it, but although it's easy to reproduce, 
it takes numerous seemingly unrelated steps, which makes the source of the 
bug very hard to pinpoint.
                   (BRANDT, CAT17, TOP31, MSG:36/M645;1)


                            >>> WHAT'S NEW <<<
                            """"""""""""""""""

LAST ISSUES OF A2-CENTRAL, TIMEOUT-CENTRAL, SCRIPT-CENTRAL, STUDIO CITY
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

In the beginning was the end   We are on the bank of the river now, drying 
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''   off, exhausted, but alive.  After months of 
swimming upstream, this month we quit.

     When I set up ICON a year ago, I felt it would guarantee Resource 
Central's publications a long future.  ICON had not only the monthly income 
from renewals of our longstanding Apple II publications, it also had new 
Macintosh and Windows publications coming on stream that would generate new 
members, new subscriptions, and eventually, more renewals.

     Unfortunately, my dream has turned into a nightmare.  Projections for 
1995 show ICON's expenses would have been about $210,000, while income 
would have been only $140,000, a shortfall of 50 percent.  Worse, even the 
low-cost guerrilla marketing efforts we've been doing for Macrocosm, Solid 
Windows, Config.sys, and our other publications have been costing more than 
they've brought in, so there's no salvation there.

     We also operated at a significant loss during 1994.  We were able to 
cover our expenses by selling off many of our assets, such as our retail 
inventory and some of our office furniture and computer equipment.  But the 
bottom line is that we ran out of money in January.

     As our remaining assets sell, we will have the cash to pay what we 
owe to our editors and contributors.  However, we don't have the cash to 
pay back what we owe to our members for unfulfilled subscriptions, which is 
by far the biggest liability we have.  Since we simply don't have the money 
to pay you back, we've made arrangements for you to get an equivalent 
number of issues of similar computer publications from another publisher.

     If you were a subscriber to the Macintosh version of Studio City, 
your subscription has been converted into a subscription to the HyperStudio 
Journal, a new publication created by Studio City's editor, Bill Lynn.  You 
will receive your first issue with a week or two.

     If you were a subscriber to any of our other publications, about 
March 1 you'll get a letter from The Cobb Group, a computer newsletter 
company owned by Ziff-Davis, that describes a selection of their 
publications.  The letter will include a card with a label that has your 
name and address, the ICON publication you subscribed to, and how many 
issues were left on your subscription.  If you subscribed to more than one 
of our publications, you'll get a separate letter for each one.  All you 
have to do is select which of The Cobb Group's publications you'd like to 
receive and return the card to them.

     The selection includes a variety of Macintosh, DOS, and Windows 
publications.  Most of them are paper newsletters, but there are also some 
disk publications.

On a personal note...   While it's painful to see Resource Central and ICON 
'''''''''''''''''''''   disintegrate like this, your support and loyalty 
gave me and those who worked with me over the last ten years great careers.  
We want to thank you for that.  Those of you who are left are the loyalest 
and bestest.

     I am now editing two of The Cobb Group's publications.  They are 
Quick$ense, which is for Quicken users, and $imply$ecure, which is for 
Kiplinger's Simply Money users.  Both of these are on the list of Cobb 
Group publications you can subscribe to.  Our editors and staff are all 
moving on to a variety of new adventures.  Thanks for accompanying us on 
this one.

Sincerely,

Tom Weishaar
                    (TOM.W, CAT23, TOP3, MSG:1/M645;1)


NEW VENDORS   Two new vendors to consider. I have NOT dealt with them, but 
"""""""""""   got this information from AOL. Both are current info. Blue 
Sky deals with several Apple II peripherals and cards, And Aurora has a new 
line of 800 K and 1.44 MB disk drives. Just thought that this might be of 
interest. Steve

     1) Blue Sky20@aol.com

          Apple High Speed SCSI Card = $119.95
          RamFAST SCSI Card w/256K  = $208.00
          RamFAST SCSI Card w/1MB    = $244.00
          External SCSI Case w/Power Supply  = $64.95
          Sequential Systems RAM GS 4MB card  = $159.95

     Now as for Hard Drives, small SCSI drives in the 20-100 Range are 
becoming very hard to acquire.  And if they can be fcound they are usually 
very expensive.  So let me know the size drive you were looking into and 
also about how much you wanted to spend on one, and I will get back to you.

     All equipment above carries a 1 year warranty.  Shipping is $4 
Prepaid or $7 COD.

          Rob Steiner
          Blue Sky Information Technologies
          1094 Robin Road
          Franklin Square, NY 11010
          516-872-0386

     2)  Aurora SM

     Press Release of New Products - HD and HD Ultra drives

     Carrollton, TX (July 1, 1994) Advanced Logic Integration, Inc is 
proud to announce the release of the two 3.5" drive models for the 
Macintosh and Apple II computer. The HD and the HD Ultra drives. These high 
quality drives use the latest surface mount technology and quality Sony(tm) 
drive mechanisms. Exclusive to the ALI drives, is a green/red light 
indicating read/write activities.

     The HD drive works as an 400K, 800K and 1.44Mb on properly equipped 
Mac and Apple II computers. Fully SuperDrive compatible on SuperDrive 
equipped Macs. What makes this drive unique is its ability to be used 
externally on the new Quadra and Centris Macintosh computers (which don't 
have external drive ports). ALI has designed a special adapter kit which 
allows these single drive Macs to use a second drive. Now, you can use 
these Macs for two disk backup programs, disk-to-disk copies and disk 
installation without having to swap disks. The HD drive retails for $249. 
The Quadra Adapter Kit is $49.

     The HD Ultra is an amazing drive that allows 1.44MB Mac and DOS disks 
to be recognized on a Macintosh that is only able to recognize 800K 
floppies. The HD Ultra attached to a Mac 512Ke, Plus, SE, Classic, or Mac 
II will recognize Mac 400K, 800K and 1.44MB disks. This is accomplished by 
the processor in the HD Ultra drive and the Ultra INIT  loaded in the 
System Folder. Additionally, 720K and 1.44Mb DOS disks can be recognized by 
using Apple's File Exchange or PC Exchange utilities. The HD Ultra drive 
works without software as a 400K,  800K and 1.44Mb on properly equipped Mac 
and Apple II computers. It is fully compatible with Apple's SuperDrive. The 
HD Ultra drive retails for $339.

     The drives are the Mac "platinum" color and same footprint as Apple's 
SuperDrive. All are constructed of high quality materials, pass strict 
quality control procedures and packed with all necessary materials.

     Dealers: Inquiries are welcome at our corporate offices. For dealer 
availability and pricing, please call (214) 446-8444.

     Individuals: For additional information, please contact your local 
ALI dealer or call our international distributor, ABC Direct, at (800) 
481-6782.
                (S.CAVANAUGH1, CAT2, TOP20, MSG:250/M645;1)


INTERVIEW WITH STEVE WOZNIAK!
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

                       It'll be here February 15th!

                      POWERGS ISSUE NUMBER FIVE!!!!

                              ....WITH....


              ***   AN INTERVIEW WITH STEVE WOZNIAK!   ***

                       ... 12 pages of the Woz ...
                      ... What's he been up to? ...
                  ... Readers asked questions, too! ...
                          ... Sound Clips ...
                           ... Pictures! ...

                                 and

                            THE GS-STUDIO!
               ... About Music Production on the GS ...

                                 and

                     REVIEW OF THE TURBO ASB CARD!
          ... The New High Speed Serial Board for the II! ...

                                 and

                           MUCH MUCH MORE!!!
         ... Including letters, music, sound, and more! ...

                         "Where Can I Get It?"

                                GEnie(tm)
                          Shareware Solutions II
                    comp.binaries.apple2 (the binaries)
                       ftp.cco.caltech.edu (caltech)
                        grind.isca.uiowa.edu (grind)

                 -=- Coming Soon To A Screen Near You! -=-

               (A.RAHIMZADEH, CAT13, TOP38, MSG:126/M645;1)


PROTERM FOR THE MACINTOSH, TOO!   (There were some oversights in a message 
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   posted 2/7/95 and this document replaces 
the previous post. The previous post was killed and this corrected one 
takes its place. Sorry for the oversight and the fact that it is out of 
sequence now with the original post and some of the queries to this 
message.

(There is one more clarification in this updated message concerning the 
expiration date this offer.)


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                   (INTREC, CAT24, TOP14, MSG:44/M645;1)


                       >>> THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE <<<
                       """""""""""""""""""""""""""""

WOLFENSTEIN 3-D DELAYED   We still don't have a release date for 
"""""""""""""""""""""""   Wolfenstein 3D.  We've got the first 30 levels 
working, but are having some trouble with the remaining 60 levels.

     As far as an accelerator, we are STRONGLY recommending one.  The 
intense animation simply doesn't perform well without it.

Lowell Erbe
Vitesse, Inc., Technical Support 
                   (VITESSE, CAT40, TOP6, MSG:47/M645;1)

>>>>>   A couple of days ago I placed an order w/Vitesse & was given some
"""""   bad news:

1)   Wolf 3-D will be delayed approx. 30 days due to a contractual glitch. 
     The impression was that it was semantics & should be resolved.
2)   No go on SimCity --- "they" (the copywrite holder) want an 
     unreasonably high $$$.  <SIGH>  Makes me mad;  guess I'll have to get 
     a stupid PC clone so I can play this game.    I believe in capitalism  
     --- but cut us a break!!!!!

     To their credit, the Vitesse rep was also upset that SimCity won't be
distributed and in other ways was very friendly & helpful.  Kudos to
Vitesse!
                   (J.KOCH6, CAT6, TOP3, MSG:340/M645;1)


PROGRAMMERS NEEDED FOR SEQUENTIAL MYSTERY PROJECTS   Don't know offhand.  
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   It might be summer.  
We are finishing up this video board thing, then we're going to do a 
quickie Apple II project, then I am going to be working on some spiffy 
networking projects.  Any programmers with Mac & Apple IIGS experience 
might want to fax a resume to 303-665-0933, attention Jawaid.

Jawaid
                  (PROCYON, CAT20, TOP12, MSG:127/M645;1)


SECOND SIGHT BOARD COMING?   we're going to final hardware this week, and 
""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the firmware is coming along rather nicely. 
Expect to see the board Real Soon Now.

   Jawaid
                  (PROCYON, CAT20, TOP14, MSG:301/M645;1)


OTHER FAX SOFTWARE   Dear Paul, Just because Vitesse has come out with fax 
""""""""""""""""""   software don't stop or slow down work on yours.  In 
fact work harder!  As it will not take much to be better. <sigh>
                  (G.TOLAR, CAT38, TOP15, MSG:176/M645;1)

>>>>>   Don't worry!  I'm working away on it.  I haven't seen Faxination
"""""   yet, so I really don't know what features it supports, but PMPFax 
will be very comprehensive and expandable.  I've been having a problem for 
the past month or so that wouldn't go away.  It finally did, so I can 
actually do something new for a change!  But it is slowly (at least, slower 
than I'd like) getting finished.  I will keep everyone up to date on the 
progress.
                    (PMP, CAT38, TOP15, MSG:177/M645;1)

>>>>>   > My understanding is that Rich Wifall has abandoned work on
"""""   > Faxplosion :(.

     <Engage cryptic mode>

     Maybe he has, and maybe he hasn't?
                  (JOE.KOHN, CAT10, TOP9, MSG:188/M645;1)


SHIFTY LIST 2.0 IN THE WORKS   Shifty List 2.0 new features so far include 
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the ability to change the startup 
application within a Shifty List script.

     AND use different scripts by holding down different keys while shift- 
booting.  For instance, to boot with just my debugging tools and boot 
directly into ORCA, I can shift-O boot. :)

     AND you can reverse the meaning of the shift key, so that 
shift-booting loads EVERYTHING and regular booting uses your Shifty List 
script.

     AND the maximum pathname length has gone from 256 bytes to 8k.

     AND you can rename your boot disk without breaking your Shifty List 
scripts.

     AND I'm just getting started!!  Look for Shifty List 2.0 coming 
sometime this summer to a Softdisk G-S near you (hopefully :).

Sheppy
                (POWERPC.PRO, CAT13, TOP18, MSG:96/M645;1)


                         >>> MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT <<<
                         """""""""""""""""""""""""

Category 2,  Topic 4
Message 582       Mon Feb 20, 1995
B.BACOME [BRENT]             at 01:14 EST
 
     Mr. Smith, Please don't sell all of your computer stuff.  Here's what 
happened to me the other day:  I'm totally blind I live alone and don't 
have much sighted help.  My hard drive, accidently, got initicialized.  All 
of my talk files and data files were gone. I knew that as long as my 
controler card was inside the computer, My computer wouldn't startup 
because there wasn't any data on the hard drive.  So, I turned off the 
machine, took out the disk controler card for my hard drive, and inserted a 
5.25 talking disk.  Well, thanks to God, my machine started.  Then i 
reformatted my hard drive and have been really careful every since.  If I 
can be of any help to you folks, let me know.

Thanks so much,
Brent Bacome 

                                 [*][*][*]


    While on GEnie,  do  you spend most of your time  downloading files?
If so, you may be missing out some excellent information in the Bulletin
Board  area.   The messages  listed above  only scratch  the surface  of
what's available and waiting for you in the bulletin board area.

    If you are serious about your Apple II, the GEnieLamp staff strongly
urge  you to give the  bulletin board area a try.   There are  literally
thousands  of messages  posted  from people  like you from  all over the
world.



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/////////////////////////////////
Fun & Games On GEnie
""""""""""""""""""""
by Ted Therio



                          >>> A FEW ANAGRAMS <<<
                          """"""""""""""""""""""

     If you can take a word or phrase and scramble its letters so that it 
forms a different word or phrase, you've made an anagram.  These days, 
there are computer programs that will help you form anagrams.  The trouble 
with these programs is that they make it easy to form bad or clumsy 
anagrams, such as "lick harbour gate fort" for "the rock of Gibraltar".  
Anyone who looks up from their laptop to announce such an anagram may 
safely be met with a cry of "Who cares?"

     A good anagram is one that acknowledges the context of the original 
phrase, and avoids cheats such as phrases beginning "O," to use up a 
leftover O, ("mosquitoes" <=> "O, Moses! Quit") and clumsy constructions.  
Here are twenty anagrams of the more artful sort:

                      desperation <=> a rope ends it

     Ivanhoe, by Sir Walter Scott <=> a novel by a Scottish writer

                     conservative <=> not vice versa

                   a divorce suit <=> I advise court

                     eleven + two <=> twelve + one

                       the answer <=> wasn't here

                Saint Elmo's fire <=> is lit for seamen

                         the eyes <=> they see

                        orchestra <=> a cart horse

                       atom bombs <=> a mob's tomb

                    talcum powder <=> world cup team

                     schoolmaster <=> the classroom

                       endearment <=> tender name

                    Western Union <=> no wire unsent

                    Is pity love? <=> Absolutely!

          circumstantial evidence <=> can ruin a selected victim

                        noiseless <=> lionesses

                    no admittance <=> contaminated

                          one hug <=> enough

      a stitch in time saves nine <=> this is meant as incentive



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[REF]//////////////////////////////
                     REFLECTIONS /
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Thinking About Online Communications
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Phil Shapiro
   [P.SHAPIRO1]



           >>> FORGING NEW LINKS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND HOME <<<
           """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

     Education, by its very nature, is a collaborative enterprise.  
Schools cannot succeed unless children have a supportive home environment.  
Many families cannot raise their children without a supportive school 
environment.

     Considering how vital education is to society's well-being, you would 
think that teachers and parents would be engaging in regular 
communications.  The truth is that neither parents nor teachers have time 
to phone one another regularly.  To be sure, written notes are carried by 
students back and forth between home and school, but these notes hardly 
establish the type of ongoing dialogue that makes parents and teachers well 
connected with each other.

     Enter electronic mail.  The nature of the technology makes it 
exceedingly easy to maintain an ongoing dialogue.  The reply to one message 
invites a response of its own.  Pretty soon parents and teachers can 
actually get to know each other.

     What can happen when parents and teachers communicate?  A lot.  
Parents can keep closely informed about what's happening in the classroom, 
allowing them to create parallel learning opportunities outside of the 
classroom.  Likewise, teachers can keep closely informed about happenings 
at the child's home, allowing them to make appropriate adjustments for 
events in the child's life.

     Teachers can stay clued in to when a child's pet dies, to when a new 
sibling is born, to when a new interest is sparked, to when a new personal 
milestone is reached.  For example, if a child develops a passionate 
interest in tornadoes and violent weather, imagine how useful it would be 
for a teacher to become aware of that fact.  Imagine how useful it would be 
for a teacher to know on the first day of school that the most meaningful 
thing in a student's life is baseball.  Likewise, imagine the lost learning 
opportunities to teachers who remain unaware of the fields of learning with 
special meaning to their students.

     One of the primary advantages of electronic mail exchanges between 
the home and school is that it helps re-create that mythical "tribal 
village" from which all social structures spring.  If parents get to know 
teachers on a more personal level, they're bound to have a better 
appreciation of the teacher's teaching style.  And if teachers get to know 
parents on a more personal level, they're bound to gain deeper insight into 
the child's inner self.

     Think back to when you were in school.  If your parent ever needed to 
talk with your teacher, didn't it feel awkward to have these two total 
strangers getting together for a meeting?  Would it not have seemed more 
natural if they didn't talk just two or three times per year?

     Electronic mail has several other uses in helping to forge stronger 
ties between home and school.  Parents and teachers can maintain closer 
links about developing disciplinary problems, enabling both groups to work 
in concert to nip problems in the bud.  Teachers can easily send a single 
E-mail message copied to all online parents in a particular class, making 
use of online communication's "broadcasting" capabilities.  Academic 
triumphs of the school as a whole, and of individual students, can be 
appropriately "celebrated" online on the day the good news comes to light.

     Think back to the days of the one room school house.  Everybody knew 
one another.  The social fabric was tightly knit.  People pulled together 
because the community's goals were well-defined and commonly understood.

     Online communications serve to rebuild the sense of community that 
functions as the primary wellspring of education.  With community comes 
hope, and with hope comes everything else.

Phil Shapiro

                                 [*][*][*]


          The author takes a keen interest in the social and psychological 
          dimensions of online communications.  He can be reached on the 
          Internet at: p.shapiro1@genie.geis.com and pshapiro@aol.com



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Networking with Etherplus
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Phil Shapiro
   [P.SHAPIRO1]



              >>> NEWS ABOUT THE NEW "ETHERPLUS" NETWORK <<<
              """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

     An Apple II news item in the latest issue of Electronic Learning 
magazine caught my eye last week.  At the end of 1994 a company named 
VELAN, based in Los Altos, California, announced that its now possible to 
use their hardware and software to connect up Apple II's to an Ethernet 
network of MS-DOS and/or Macintosh computers.

     I placed a phone call to VELAN to find out more about this.  I 
chatted for a while with Kevin Hurlbut.  Kevin explained that the brief 
news item in Electronic Learning magazine was not entirely accurate.  
Apparently it is possible to connect Apple II's to a VELAN Ethernet 
network, but the connection is made using the standard Apple II serial 
connection, rather than via an Apple II Ethernet card.
 
     For those who might not know, serial connections to a network are 
considered rather slow.  Still, the news from VELAN is quite welcome.  
These days it is possible for a school to purchase an entire lab of Apple 
II computers, second hand, for under $1000.  Networking these computers 
together, using an MS-DOS file server, might make good sense.

     Here's a copy of the press release for the new "Etherplus" networking 
product.

                                 [*][*][*]


Press Release:
11/28/1994

"EtherPlus"
ETHERNET ON VELAN NETWORKS

     VELAN Inc., a provider of educational networking systems since 1986,  
is pleased to announce the development of EtherPlus.  EtherPlus adds 
support of network industry standard 10Base-T Ethernet to VELAN's 
networking software.  EtherPlus allows VELAN's educationally oriented 
network operating system software to network MS-DOS and Macintosh computers 
using standard Ethernet hubs, cables and adapters.  This move has been 
prompted by the enormous success and popularity of 10Base-T Ethernet in the 
networking industry.

     VELAN President Max Brown said, "We are very excited because 
EtherPlus is now the only Ethernet network operating system on the market 
that also supports Apple II computers.  We believe that this product is 
ideal for educational institutions, especially schools in transition from 
Apple II's to Macintosh and MS-DOS computers."

     EtherPlus integrates seamlessly with the traditional VELAN Network 
Operating System, and can be "back fit" into previously delivered servers,  
preserving the classroom and curriculum management capabilities of the 
VELAN software.

     Schools may choose to run EtherPlus on MS DOS and Macintosh computers 
using industry standard Ethernet cards.  Additionally, the VELAN ACT 1 
Server Board and VELAN Network interface cards may be used for Apple II 
computers, or Macintosh and MS-DOS computers that cannot support Ethernet.  
For those situations where a combination is desirable, a VELAN server will 
accommodate a combination of both types of server boards.

     VELAN EtherPlus communications will open important new doors, such as 
peer-to-peer communications and Internet connections.

     EtherPlus beta testing has been completed with MS-DOS computers and 
Macintosh testing will be completed by early summer.

     VELAN also announces the completion of its file sharing capabilities 
for Macintosh computers, to go along with the previously released MS DOS 
file sharing.  The VELAN Network System can now serve administrative,  
library and multi-user management programs at Ethernet speeds, while 
managing curricula for Apple II, Macintosh and MS-DOS computers.

     Call (415) 949-9150

          or

     FAX (415) 949-9170

     for more information or for a dealer near you.

VELAN Inc.
935 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos,  CA
94024

                                 [*][*][*]


And here's an e-mail message Kevin Hurlbut sent me, explaining the costs 
involved in setting up an Etherplus network of Apple II's.

                                 [*][*][*]


Phil,

     I'll just briefly lay out some pricing for you.  If you are only 
interested in an Apple II network,  the power of the server is not all that 
important.  A 486 with 1MB of RAM is actually overkill.  Of course,  if you 
want to do Apple II's and connect Mac's or PC's with Ethernet,  the server 
should be a power house.

     After the server, you need server boards.  They come in 3 flavors: 
VIP 1 (really old), VIP 2 (not as old) and ACT 1 (latest, greatest). The 
difference between the boards is *speed*.

     Each server board supports 16 serial devices (computers or printers). 
 The prices:

                VIP 1           $795.00
                VIP 2           $1795.00
                ACT 1           $2495.00

     To network 30 Apple II's and a couple of printers, you would need 2 
server boards.

     The base price for the software is $2195.00.  This includes all the 
software necessary to make the network run.

     Interface cards for Apple II computers cost $85.00 each.  We usually 
quote cabling at $30.00 per computer.  The system uses Unshielded Twisted 
Pair cable.

     So, the total to build a network of 30 Apple II's (assuming all the 
machines are in the same room), would be:
 
     2 Server Boards        Range between $1590.00 - $4990.00
     (depending on which boards you buy)
 
     Interface cards                         $2550.00
     Network Software                        $2195.00
     Cabling                                  $900.00

     Installation quotes have to be done on a per site basis.
 
     Optional features include a tape backup system ($995.00) and a power 
conditioner (UPS $275.00)
 
Kevin Hurlbut
Internet address:  velan@netcom.com



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Yours For the Downloading
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Charlie Hartley
   [C.HARTLEY3]



     Welcome back to the Treasure Hunt!  This month I've decided to 
feature the transcript files of special Real-Time Conferences held in the 
Apple II RoundTable over the years.  Whether you are looking for specific 
information about a product, or just interesting in traveling down memory 
lane, there is a wealth of information available in these files.

     Most are ASCII text files that have been shrunk with various forms of 
ShrinkIt.  Unpack them and read them with your favorite word processor.

     I've provided you with the file numbers, the file names, the size of 
the files in bytes, and a brief description of what is in the file.  I've 
begun with the most recent file and worked my way back.  I did not include 
the oldest of the transcript files, but if you are interested in them, go 
to the Apple II library 17 and select a file number smaller than the last 
one given here.

                                 [*][*][*]


File: 24274 -- Name: AnimasiaRTC.BXY 

     This is a transcript of the RTC on ANIMASIA 3-D held on February 27, 
1995.  The guest was Michael Lutynski, author of the program.


File: 24088 -- Name: LZW.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 10112

     This is an edited transcript of the RTC on LZW held in the A2 area on 
2/6/95. It includes a discussion of the effects of the LZW patent on Apple 
II programs.


File: 23925 -- Name: SPECTRUMRTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 19456

     This is the edited transcript of the Spectrum 2.0 RTC held on January 
16, 1995, in the A2 RTC.  Read this transcript for details on Spectrum 
2.0's new features and when it will be available.


File: 23874 -- Name: ANSITRMRTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 9472

     This is an edited transcript of the ANSITerm RTC held on Monday, 
January 9, 1995.  The guest speaker was Paul Parkhurst, author of ANSITerm 
Telecommunications Software for the Apple IIGS.  ANSITerm is a 
full-featured terminal program that offers compatibility with PC-based 
bulletin board systems that use PC-ANSI emulation to display colored text 
and special graphical characters, as well as support for VT52 and VT100 
emulations.  ANSITerm also works well on GEnie and will support CoPilot.


File: 23745 -- Name: PAUG.DEC.94.BXY -- # of bytes: 16768

     Guests Tony Morales, Pat Kern, & Clay Juniel discuss the Sights & 
Sounds of Christmas in A2.  Transcript of RTC Dec. 11, 1994.  Discussion of 
Sonobox & Mods, GS Entertainment, Music Composer, & Jukebox, Greeting Cards 
& Embossing with Publish It, New Print Shop, & Print Shop GS, & other ways 
to use your computer for graphics & sounds.  Cindy Adams, RTC leader.  
Monthly PAUG meeting.


File: 23625 -- Name: J.KOHN.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 21120

     This is an edited transcript of the RTC with Joe Kohn discussing the 
Apple II and the Internet.  The conference was held on Saturday, November 
19,1994.


File: 23511 -- Name: B.TUDOR.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 13056

     This is an edited transcript of the RTC held on Friday, October 21.  
The conference guest was Bill Tudor and the topic was his Apple IIgs 
utilities.   Extraneous comments have been edited out.


File: 21883 -- Name: BIRD.VR.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 22144

     Bird spun a wild tale during my Sunday Virtual Saloon RTC on 
12.19.93.  By popular demand (if a little late) here it is. Enjoy!


File: 21536 -- Name: WAGNER.TRAN.BXY -- # of bytes: 14848

     This is an edited transcript from the online talk show, "A Walk on 
the Wild Side with Tara & Co!"  An interview with Roger Wagner on October 
4, 1993.  Enjoy!


File: 21210 -- Name: TOM.W.TRANS.BXY -- # of bytes: 12544

     This is the edited transcript of the first "Walk on the Wild Side 
with Tara & Co." interview...featuring Tom Weishaar!  This was a "fun" 
interview, strictly for pleasure -- no meaningful information content 
whatsoever!  Enjoy!  Interview date: 8/16/93


File: 21196 -- Name: HYPER.M.814.BXY -- # of bytes: 11648

     Here is a text file transcription from the first Hypermediacs
RTC, a group devoted to creating and distributing HyperStudio stackware.  
This transcript has been completely edited to remove extranious chatter so 
it's a small D/L of a fairly focused discussion.


File: 20936 -- Name: APPLEII.MTS.BXY -- # of bytes: 13184

     This is an RTC with Dean Esmay as the Guest in a GEnieUs RTC entitled 
Meet The SysOps.  This is a really short D/L, and makes some good reading.  
Dean talks about the purpose of A2, the longevity of the Apple II, tools 
for making A2 and A2Pro faster and cheaper to use, as well as other 
tidbits.  All in all a really fun read, enjoy!


File: 20272 -- Name: RTC.LUTUS.BXY  92/11 -- # of bytes: 11904

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on November 10, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Paul Lutus.  The subject of the conference was Apple 
Writer.


File: 20260 -- Name: RTC.SWITCH.BXY -- # of bytes: 9984

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on January 12, 1993.  The 
featured guest was Jawaid Bazyar.  The subject of the conference was 
SwitchIt!


File: 20131 -- Name: RTC.HAYMAN.BXY  92/10 -- # of bytes: 4480

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on October 22, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Gary Hayman.  The subject of the conference was The 
Magic File Cabinet.


File: 20128 -- Name: RTC.WAGNER.BXY  92/10 -- # of bytes: 12160

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on October 13, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Roger Wagner.  The subject was an Evening with Roger 
Wagner.


File: 19521 -- Name: RTC.HARTLEY.BXY -- # of bytes: 4992

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on September 15, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Charlie Hartley.  The subject was Computer Keyboarding.


File: 19345 -- Name: RTC.SOFDISK.BXY -- # of bytes: 7936

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 20, 1992.  The 
featured guests were Bryan Pietrzak and Jay Jennings.  The subject was 
Softdisk Publishing.


File: 19284 -- Name: RTC.KITSINK.BXY -- # of bytes: 9728

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 11, 1992.  The 
featured guests were Guy Forsythe and Eric Bush from Kitchen Sink Software.  
The subject of the conference was AccuDraw, an 8-bit CAD program for the 
Apple II.


File: 19273 -- Name: RTC.OOTW.BXY -- # of bytes: 3968

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 2, 1992.  The featured 
guest was Bill Heineman but he could not make it, and Nate Trost filled in 
admirably.  The subject of the conference was Out of This World, a new game 
from InterPlay.


File: 19180 -- Name: RTC.BRANDT.BXY -- # of bytes: 6912

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 28, 1992.  The featured 
guest was Randy Brandt of JEM software, author of UltraMacros 4.0.  The 
subject was UltraMacros 4.0.


File: 19062 -- Name: RTC.UTILWKS.BXY -- # of bytes: 7296

     This is the Transcript of a RTC held on March 24, 1992.  The featured 
guest was George Wilde, author of UtilityWorks and UtilityLaunch.


File: 19011 -- Name: RTC.SWIHART.BXY -- # of bytes: 12160

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 14, 1992.  The featured 
guest was Tim Swihart, Apple II product manager, and all around nice guy!  
The topic of the conference was Apple IIgs System Software 6.0.


File: 18765 -- Name: DAVE.MATT.BXY -- # of bytes: 10368

     This is the Transcript of a RTC held on April 28, 1992.  The featured 
guests were Dave Lyons and Matt Deatherage, with a special guest appearance 
by Gregg Branche.  The subject was the newest and best System Software, 6.0 
for the Apple IIgs.


File: 18538 -- Name: RTC.KOHN.BXY -- # of bytes: 8960

     This is the transcript of the RTC held on February 25, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Joe Kohn, the PD software librarian for the BRCC [Big 
Red Computer Club].  The subject of the conference was PD software for the 
Apple II.


File: 18097 -- Name: GS.PLUS.BXY -- # of bytes: 7680

     This is the transcript of the RTC held on February 18, 1992.  The 
featured guests were Steve Disbrow and Josef Wankerl.  The subject of the 
conference was GS+ magazine.


File: 18095 -- Name: ECON.BXY -- # of bytes: 8576

     This is the transcript of the RTC held on February 11, 1992.  The 
featured guest was D.Proni.  The subject of the conference was ECON 
Technologies.


File: 17755 -- Name: HEINEMAN.BXY -- # of bytes: 6912

     This is the transcript of the RTC held on January 28, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Bill Heineman, programmer extraordinaire for the IIgs.  
The subject was Sluggo III, a Nintendo developement system for the IIgs.


File: 17753 -- Name: FILLMORE.BXY -- # of bytes: 10624

     This is the transcript of the RTC held on January 21, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Kent Fillmore, Computing RT Manager on GEnie.  The 
subject was DRACO-Net, the longest running Apple II BBS in the country.


File: 17584 -- Name: SUPRAMODEM.BXY -- # of bytes: 8448

     This is the transcript of the RTC helde in the Apple II RT on January 
14, 1992.  The featured guest was Mark White of Supra Corporation.


File: 17535 -- Name: TRIAD.BXY -- # of bytes: 5888

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on January 7, 1992.  The 
featured guest was Mike Nuzzi of Triad Ventures.  The subject of the 
conference was SoundConvert, a sound converter from Triad Ventures.


File: 17533 -- Name: FORM.CONF.BXY -- # of bytes: 9344

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on December 22, 1991.  The 
featured guests were Gerhard Kress, the programmer of Formulate, and Dave 
Hecker from Seven Hills Software.  The subject was Formulate a mathematical 
formula processor from Seven Hills.


File: 17140 -- Name: RTC.RWP.BXY -- # of bytes: 13056

     Roger Wagner discusses HyperStudio 3.0 and all its new features.  
HyperStudio is a hypermedia program for the Apple IIgs.


File: 17057 -- Name: RTC.UNCDOS.BXY -- # of bytes: 16128

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on November 5, 1991.  The 
featured guest was Tom Weishaar, otherwise known as Uncle DOS.


File: 17048 -- Name: HYPERMEDIA.BXY -- # of bytes: 15232

     This is the transcript from the November 18, 1991 HyperMedia RTC.  
The subject was "Meet the editors of Studio City and Script Central".  The 
guests were Bo Monroe, Dean Esmay, and Hangtime.  Discussions revolved 
around Hypermedia in general, comparisons between Hypercard IIgs and 
HyperStudio, the Studio City and Script-Central magazines, and more.

File: 16823 -- Name: RTC.FINDER.BXY -- # of bytes: 10752

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on October 9, 1991.  The 
featured guests were Andy Nicholas and Dave Lyons of Apple Computer, Inc.  
The subject was Finder 6.0 and IIgs System Software 6.0.  [The most recent 
version is of course System 6.0.1.]


File: 16635 -- Name: RTC.PT3.BXY -- # of bytes: 11904

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on September 17, 1991.  The 
featured guests were Jerry Cline and Greg Schaefer of InTrec [then Insync] 
Software, Inc.  The subject was the long-awaited new version of their 
communications software, ProTERM 3.0.  [The most recent version is ProTERM 
3.1.]


File: 16150 -- Name: RTC.KFEST91.BXY -- # of bytes: 26624

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 19, 1991.  The subject 
was the Apple II Developer's Conference that is held in Kansas City.  Among 
the products discussed were IIgs System Disk 6.0, SuperDrive card, Ethernet 
card, HyperCard IIgs 1.1, and HyperStudio 3.0.


File: 15425 -- Name: SCRIPTCNTRL.BXY -- # of bytes: 10112

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 23, 1991.  The featured 
guest was HangTime, the editor of Script-Central.  The subject was 
HyperMedia and Script-Central, a new HyperCard IIgs based publication from 
Resource-Central. 


File: 14589 -- Name: RTC.HCGS2.BXY -- # of bytes: 18900

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on January 29, 1991.  The 
featured guests were John Lawler and Tim Swihart of Apple Computer.  The 
subject was HyperCard IIgs.


File: 14482 -- Name: RTC.HS.BXY -- # of bytes: 12600

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on January 15, 1991.  The 
featured guests were Roger Wagner and Eric Mueller of Roger Wagner 
Publishing.  The topic was HyperStudio.


File: 14359 -- Name: RTC.NEWC.BXY -- # of bytes: 11340

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on January 8, 1991.  The 
featured guests were Larry O'Connor and Scott Gentry.  The subject was the 
Advanced Vision Plus digitizer and the Allison digitizing software.


File: 14193 -- Name: RTC.HCGS.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on December 18, 1990.  The 
featured guests were John Lawler, Andy Stadler, and Tim Swihart of Apple 
Computer.


File: 14070 -- Name: RTC.AFEST90.BXY -- # of bytes: 10080

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on November 29, 1990.  The 
featured guest was Peter Kimpton, the AppleFest conference director for 
Exposition Management.


File: 14032 -- Name: RTC.SYS.503.BXY -- # of bytes: 21420

     This is the transcript of a RTC held in the Apple II Programmers RT 
on November 19, 1990.  Includes lots of information on the new IIgs system 
software 5.0.3!  The featured guest was Dave Lyons (and company) of Apple 
Computer, Inc.


File: 13908 -- Name: RTC.ZIP2.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on November 6, 1990.  The 
featured guest was Tony Vece of Zip Technologies.


File: 13849 -- Name: RTC.SAMSNET.BXY -- # of bytes: 10080

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on October 30, 1990.  The 
featured guest was Joe Davis, the executive director of SamsNet, the 
Soviet/Americans Network.


File: 12881 -- Name: RTC.SHRINK.BXY -- # of bytes: 13860

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 10, 1990.  The featured 
guest was Andy Nicholas of Paper Bag Productions, creator of ShrinkIt and 
ShrinkIt GS.


File: 12847 -- Name: RTC.PROTERM.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on June 26, 1990.  The featured 
guests were Jerry Cline, Greg Schafer and Mike Golaszewski of InSync [now 
InTrec], publishers ProTERM 2.2.


File: 11934 -- Name: RTC.ZIP.BXY -- # of bytes: 12600

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on June 5, 1990.  The featured 
guest was Tony Vece of Zip Technology.


File: 11931 -- Name: RTC.SMASTER.TXT -- # of bytes: 21420

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on May 29, 1990.  The featured 
guests were Jeff Fox and Scott Hammond, authors of SwitchMaster from QLabs.


File: 11827 -- Name: RTC.ASIC.BXY -- # of bytes: 12600

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on May 22, 1990.  The featured 
guests were William Hayes and Tony Fadell of ASIC Enterprises.


File: 11752 -- Name: RTC.CV.TECH.BXY -- # of bytes: 13860

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on May 8, 1990. T he featured 
guests were Andrew Vogan and Terry Chlebek of CV Tech, creators of the 
RamFAST SCSI card.


File: 11750 -- Name: RTC.NAUG.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on May 1, 1990.  The featured 
guest was Warren Williams of the National AppleWorks User Group.


File: 11080 -- Name: RTC.PUBLISHIT.BXY -- # of bytes: 13860

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 17, 1990.  The featured 
guest was Bruce Rosenblum of Turning Point Software, author of PublishIt! 
3.0. 


File: 11077 -- Name: RTC.UWGS.BXY -- # of bytes: 7560

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 10, 1990.  The featured 
guest was George Wilde, the author of UtilityWorks and Utility Launcher for 
the Apple IIgs.


File: 11072 -- Name: RTC.WESTBROOK.TXT -- # of bytes: 17640

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 3, 1990.  The featured 
guest was David Westbrook of Ingenuity, Inc.


File: 10407 -- Name: EBBS.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on February 20, 1990.  The 
guests were Joe Schober and Scott Sidley, developers of the EBBS networking 
BBS system. 


File: 10404 -- Name: APPLENET.BXY -- # of bytes: 11340

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on February 13, 1990.  The guest 
was Larry Edwards, GEnie's online advocate of the AppleNET BBS system.

File: 9376 -- Name: TOMZ.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 8820

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on December 19, 1989.  The guest 
was Tom Zuchowski, GEnie Eamon expert and president of the Eamon 
Adventurer's Guild, who discussed the popular public-domain Eamon series of 
role-playing adventure games.


File: 9374 -- Name: TRIV.DEC89.BXY -- # of bytes: 6300

     This is the transcript of the Apple II Trivia game held in the Apple 
II RT on December 12, 1989.  It includes questions, answers, and a list of 
players with scores.


File: 9204 -- Name: RTC.FORSYTH.BXY -- # of bytes: 10080

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on December 5, 1989.  The guest 
was Guy Forsythe of Kitchen Sink Software, publishers of technology and 
education programs for the Apple II.


File: 9011 -- Name: GAMES.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 13860

     This is an A2 RTC Transcript of a conference held November 21, 1989, 
which focused on Apple II games.


File: 8937 -- Name: LINK.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 12600

     This is an A2 RTC Transcript of the RTC held on November 14, 1989; 
the guest was John Link, author of the popular AppleWorks utility program, 
SuperPatch.


File: 8841 -- Name: AE.Q.AND.A.BXY -- # of bytes: 11340

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on November 7, 1989.  The guest 
was Jeff Holcomb of Applied Engineering, who answered questions about AE's 
many products for the Apple II.


File: 8785 -- Name: OKS.Q.AND.A.BXY -- # of bytes: 16380

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on October 31, 1989.  The guest 
was Andy Finkenstadt of Ohio Kache Systems, who answered questions about 
OKS's disk accelerator products.


File: 8646 -- Name: MENSCH.RTC.TXT -- # of bytes: 17640

     This is the transcript of a RTC held in the Apple II Programmers and 
Developers RT on Oct 9, 1989.  The featured guest was Bill Mensch of the 
Western Design Center.  In this transcript, Mensch discusses faster 65816 
chips, his planned Mensch Microprocessor, and an accelerator contest, among 
many other topics.


File: 8585 -- Name: RTC.C2.PLUS.BXY -- # of bytes: 10080

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 29, 1989.  The 
featured guest was Russ Gibson of Central Point Software.


File: 8481 -- Name: RTC.B.BROS.BXY -- # of bytes: 16380

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 15, 1989.  The 
featured guests were Mark de Jong, Jeff Jungblut and Mark Munz of Beagle 
Bros.


File: 8479 -- Name: RTC.STN.EDG.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on August 8, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Barney Stone of Stone Edge Technologies.


File: 8293 -- Name: RTC.KANSAS.BXY -- # of bytes: 23940

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 25, 1989.  The 
conference reviewed the A2 Central Developers Conferece held in Kansas City 
on July 21 and 22.


File: 8272 -- Name: RTC.AW.3.0.BXY -- # of bytes: 17640

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 18, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Elisa Nakata of Claris Corporation.


File: 8270 -- Name: RTC.PROTREE.BXY -- # of bytes: 11340

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on July 11, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Bob Garth of the Protree RT.


File: 7863 -- Name: RTC.HAAS.BXY -- # of bytes: 10080

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on June 27, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Jeff Haas of Electronic Arts.


File: 7860 -- Name: RTC.GEOS.TXT -- # of bytes: 31500

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on June 20, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Matt Loveless of Berkeley Softworks.


File: 7794 -- Name: KAOS.RTC.BXY -- # of bytes: 15120

     This is the transcript of the KAOS RTC held at 4 PM EDT on July 29, 
1989 which discussed the A2 University Group Project.


File: 7072 -- Name: RTC.MENZE.TXT -- # of bytes: 18900

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on May 9, 1989.  The featured 
guest was Mike Menze of Timeworks, Inc.


File: 7067 -- Name: RTC.OVERLAY.TXT -- # of bytes: 21420

     This is the transcript of a RTC held on April 25, 1989.  The featured 
guests were Doug Camplejohn and Mike Schwartz of Apple Computer, Inc.

                                 [*][*][*]


     That's it for this month.  I hope you have found something here to 
whet your interest.  Drop me a line and let me know what you think of this 
column and offer any suggestions you might have about what should be in it.

   Until next time, happy downloading!

                            -- Charlie Hartley



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January/February 1995 Report
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by "VACC Dave" Johnson
           [VACC.DAVE]



INTRODUCTION   (VACC Dave is sitting in for GEna Saikin this month, as she 
""""""""""""   has the 'flu.  Thanks, Dave.  Get well soon, GEna!)

     PAUG was created over a year ago to help cement the Apple II 
community, to provide a nexus point for existing user groups, and to 
provide a place of haven for those who can't find local support groups in 
their area.


WHAT'S NEW IN THE APPLE II WORLD?   This report is actually a combined 
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   January/February report.

     AppleWorks 5.0 was released in January and it is fantastic.  See 
Category 42, Topic 30 for official support.  More general discussion can be 
found in Category 17, Topic 27, and in Topics28-32 of that category.

     Spectrum 2.0 also started shipping in January.  The people at Seven 
Hills have worked very hard on this and it is a really great 16-bit (IIgs 
only) Communication program.  The introductory demo by Ken Lucke is a sight 
to behold and worth the price of admission by itself.  In it he shows the 
extreme versatility of the Spectrum scripting language.  It looks like a 
hypermedia stack and it's all done with Spectrum scripts and external 
commands (XCMDs)!  See Category 43, Topics 15 & 16.

     There was an upgrade to CoPilot, the IIgs offline navigator, to 
version 2.5.5.  See the library listings below for download file numbers.

     Congratulations to Joe Kohn's Shareware Solutions II newsletter on 
reaching 1000 subscribers in all 50 states plus many countries around the 
world.  For more information on SS II, see Category 28.


WHAT'S NEW IN A2   There will be a new lineup in the Roundtable conference 
""""""""""""""""   area starting March 1st.  As always, our Bulletin Board 
(option #1 from the A2 main menu) is a wealth of information on topics of 
interest in the A2 world, as well as general discussion on everything 
imaginable!  Come in and introduce yourself in category 2, topic 6.  If 
you're a fugitive from America Online, feel free to post in both topic 2 
and 6.  


THE LIBRARY STACKS
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     Some interesting uploads of January and February:

 +24012 GLAMPA29502.BXY        GEnieLamp A2, Feb. 1995 (AppleWorks)
  23970 IMAGEQUANT.BXY         Multi-format picture viewer
  23963 BEATBOX.01A.BXY        BeatBox .01a 4-8 track MOD player
 +23959 UNISYS.LZW.TXT         Unisys statement on LZW, 1/6/95
 +23940 ELECREP95.BXY          A full listing of the 104th Congress
  23939 VALEN.DSKTP.BXY        Valentine desktop backgrounds
  23937 BLOSSOM.NO1.BXY        New Apple II Newsletter (AWGS)
 +23926 A2.DOM.0195.BXY        A2 Disk of the Month, January 1995
  23924 RFMEDIA1.2.BXY         RamFAST Media Control Drivers v1.2
  23887 BIRTHDAYS.BXY          Birthday desktop backgrounds
 +23885 A2NDX9501TX.BXY        Bulletin Board Index, 1/95 (text)
 +23884 A2NDX9501DB.BXY        Bulletin Board Index, 1/95 (ADB)
  23876 AWGS1040.94.BXY        1994 income tax preparer (AWGS)
 +23875 AW1040.94.BXY          1994 income tax preparer (AW)
 +23871 SLOTSCAN162.BXY        Slotscan v1.62 - scans slots!
  23983 WARNINGANIM.BXY        Animation created with Animasia 3-D
 +24012 GLAMPA29502.BXY        GEnieLamp A2, Feb. 1995 (AppleWorks)
  24056 SP.XTRAHELP.BXY        Extra Help files for Spectrum XCMDs
 +24058 A2.JAN.TXT.BXY         TXT update of A2 Library Index - Jan.
 +24059 A2.JAN.ADB.BXY         ADB update of A2 Library Index - Jan.
  24079 READSPEED.BXY          GS/OS block device speed tester
  24095 SPACELUG1.2.BXY        Space Lugzarian 7094: HyperCard GS game
  24117 SPAM.MOD.BXY           Very funny "Spam" Amiga MOD music module
  24125 MACBIN.BXY             Decode and encode MacBinary files
  24126 COP.PT3.255.BXY        CoPilot v2.5.5 for ProTERM 3.x
  24127 COP.SPC.255.BXY        CoPilot v2.5.5 for Spectrum 1.0/2.0
  24128 COP.TIC.255.BXY        CoPilot v2.5.5 for TIC 3.31+
  24131 VENDORDA.BXY           NDA of Apple II vendors
 +24132 VENDORTXT.BXY          Text file of Apple II vendors
 +24135 SSII.FAQ.TXT           Shareware Solutions II Info File
  24145 CP.ICONS.BXY           Icons for CoPilot v2.5.5
 
  + = Works on 8-bit Apples

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 \________/ \____/ |__|        |__| |__| \____/ |__|   |_____ o\____/o ____/
 
           The latest and greatest.   Available for download now!
ProTERM users download file # 24126 * Spectrum users download file # 24127
                 Talk Is Cheap users download file # 24128 

ENDGAME   The next PAUG meeting will be on the third Sunday in March--
"""""""   March 19--at 7:00 to 9:00 pm EST.  See you then in Roundtable 
Conference room 1.   (Press 2 at the main A2 menu, 645, or just type 
"m645;2".)











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GEnieLamp Information   GEnieLamp is published on the 1st of every month 
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                          >>> GEnieLamp STAFF <<<
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 GEnieLamp    o John Peters         [GENIELAMP]    Publisher/Editor
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       IBM    o Bob Connors         [DR.BOB]       IBM EDITOR
       """    o Nancy Thomas        [N.NOWINSON]   MultiMedia Editor/Writer
              o Brad Biondo         [B.BIONDO]     IBM Staff Writer
              o Tika Carr           [T.CARR4]      IBM Staff Writer
              o Dave Nienow         [D.NIENOW]     IBM Staff Writer
              o Don Lokke           [D.LOKKE]      Cartoonist

   WINDOWS    o                                    WINDOWS EDITOR
   """""""    o John Osarczuk       [J.OSARCZUK]   Asst Editor/Columnist
              o Rick Ruhl           [RICKER]       Windows Sysop/Columnist
              o Brad Biondo         [B.BIONDO]     Windows Staff Writer
              o Rick Pitonyak       [R.PITONYAK]   Windows Staff Writer
              o Ed Williams         [E.WILLIAMS24] Windows Staff Writer
              o Dave Nienow         [D.NIENOW]     Windows Staff Writer

 MACINTOSH    o Richard Vega        [GELAMP.MAC]   MACINTOSH EDITOR
 """""""""    o Tom Trinko          [T.TRINKO]     Mac Staff Writer
              o Bret Fledderjohn    [FLEDDERJOHN]  Mac Staff Writer
              o Ricky J. Vega       [GELAMP.MAC]   Mac Staff Writer

  ATARI ST    o John Gniewkowski    [GENIELAMP.ST] ATARI ST EDITOR
  """"""""    o Mel Motogawa        [M.MOTOGAWA]   ST Staff Writer
              o Sheldon Winick      [S.WINICK]     ST Staff Writer
              o Terry Quinn         [TQUINN]       ST Staff Writer
              o Richard Brown       [R.BROWN30]    ST Staff Writer
              o Al Fasoldt          [A.FASOLDT]    ST Staff Writer
              o Fred Koch           [F.KOCH]       ST Staff Writer

ATARI ST/TX2  o Cliff Allen         [C.ALLEN17]    EDITOR/TX2
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ATARI [PR]    o Bruce Faulkner      [R.FAULKNER4]  EDITOR/GEnieLamp [PR]
""""""""""
  APPLE II    o Doug Cuff           [EDITOR.A2]    EDITOR
  """"""""    o Gina E. Saikin      [A2.GENA]      A2 Staff Writer
              o Charlie Hartley     [C.HARTLEY3]   A2 Staff Writer

     A2Pro    o Nate C. Trost       [A2PRO.GELAMP] EDITOR
     """""    o Tim Buchheim        [TIM.B]        Co-Editor

   POWERPC    o Ben Soulon          [BEN.GELAMP]   EDITOR
   """""""

      ETC.    o Jim Lubin           [J.LUBIN]      Add Aladdin Scripts
      """"    o Scott Garrigus      [S.GARRIGUS]   Search-ME!
              o Mike White          [MWHITE]       (oo) / DigiPub SysOp
              o Susie Oviatt        [SUSIE]        ASCII Artist
              o Al Fasoldt          [A.FASOLDT]    Contributing Columnist
              o Phil Shapiro        [P.SHAPIRO1]   Contributing Columnist
              o Sandy Wolf          [S.WOLF4]      Contributing Columnist


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